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No of course not; because they unite behind posiive symbols. Symbols that a straight guy like myslefwould even stand behind - as you say, to show unity. This i

by ErrantX 16y ago

No of course not; because they unite behind posiive symbols. Symbols that a straight guy like myslefwould even stand behind - as you say, to show unity. This isn't really showing unity thought. The threats are non-credible but you are giving them credence. It does feel a lot like a fearful reaction. And very little to do with unity - because the chosen symbol alienates Muslims from the protest. Think of it this way; if someon blogged random death threats because of a cartoon of George w bush would weaigh and ignore it? Why the double standard here then? There is no credible threat, but some appear afraid enough to see it as one.

tome 16y ago
Theo van Gogh was murdered! A Danish cartoonist saved himself and his granddaughter from murder by hiding in a saferoom. IIRC a man was arrested this week for attempting to murder a Swedish cartoonist. These threats are highly credible. I'm sorry if many muslims are offended by this, but that's really to do with their own lack of self confidence. Nobody's lost an eye, limb or a life by the actions of Mohammed drawers. It's a picture, for goodness sake! Perhaps we disagree about what a positive symbol is. I happen to believe the artistic result of freedom of expression is a positive symbol.
- ErrantX 16y ago
  No, those threats were credible - and clearly must be reacted to in the right manner. But this protest is reacting to the wider majority of empty threats. The rest of your post is just worrying. You may not understand why offense is taken at a picture, I agree and to me it seems silly. But that doesn't give us the right to essentially say "shush, you're being silly. Let us get on with our protest please". It's a bit patronizing :-) think of it this way: all Muslims are discluded from this protest. How is that unity? (also, this ain't freedom of artistic expression. It's a deliberate attempt to get at the terrorists with imaea they don't like... That's a negative image in my mind :-))
fgf 16y ago
A hundred years ago those positive symbols of gay lust would have merited a beating by riot police. A prison sentence was a very real fear for otherwise "respectable" but (somewhat) openly gay men. That stopped when people refused to back down for the riot police. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_riots http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_riots

by ErrantX 16y ago

tome 16y ago

Theo van Gogh was murdered! A Danish cartoonist saved himself and his granddaughter from murder by hiding in a saferoom. IIRC a man was arrested this week for attempting to murder a Swedish cartoonist. These threats are highly credible. I'm sorry if many muslims are offended by this, but that's really to do with their own lack of self confidence. Nobody's lost an eye, limb or a life by the actions of Mohammed drawers. It's a picture, for goodness sake! Perhaps we disagree about what a positive symbol is. I happen to believe the artistic result of freedom of expression is a positive symbol.

ErrantX 16y ago
No, those threats were credible - and clearly must be reacted to in the right manner. But this protest is reacting to the wider majority of empty threats. The rest of your post is just worrying. You may not understand why offense is taken at a picture, I agree and to me it seems silly. But that doesn't give us the right to essentially say "shush, you're being silly. Let us get on with our protest please". It's a bit patronizing :-) think of it this way: all Muslims are discluded from this protest. How is that unity? (also, this ain't freedom of artistic expression. It's a deliberate attempt to get at the terrorists with imaea they don't like... That's a negative image in my mind :-))

fgf 16y ago

A hundred years ago those positive symbols of gay lust would have merited a beating by riot police. A prison sentence was a very real fear for otherwise "respectable" but (somewhat) openly gay men. That stopped when people refused to back down for the riot police. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_riots http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_riots