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> And in doing so, they're willing to watch their world burn. This is an interesting note to end on. Do you think what is happening now, which I see as the lea

by sooheon 10y ago

> And in doing so, they're willing to watch their world burn. This is an interesting note to end on. Do you think what is happening now, which I see as the least bit of accountability being seen for the first time in a chronically corrupt system, is people "watch(ing) their world burn"? This is something our country desperately needs to rise above the legacy of dictatorship and corporate profiteering.

pm90 10y ago
He/She may have been speaking hyperbolically. There is no way (well, short of Korean War v2) that the Korean economy will be "burned to the ground" by what is going on. In fact, seeing all the thousands of young Koreans clamoring for accountability is just what the country and society needs. Remember that strong rule of law and impartial judicial system took a long time to sink roots in western society. The patrimony that currently exists in elite Korean society must end to enable Koreans to better tackle the problems of 21st century.
pcurve 10y ago
That was a poor phrasing on my part. What I meant to say was something along the line of, "people are willing to take big hits to see reforms take place". I don't think their world is burning. With all the turmoils going on in parts of the globe, world-burning would be a hyperbolic characterization. I do feel that it's been on a slow roast for the past 20 years, with temperature steadily rising each year. At some point, the situation becomes intolerable for critical mass, and people will jump out without looking; some not caring if it is straight into frying pan. I think we are there now. I've never seen this level of frustration since the late 80s.
- kobeya 10y ago
  Usually putting corruption behind bars isn't described as "taking a big hit".
  - Applejinx 10y ago
    I think the implication may be along the lines of 'the huge corporation will intentionally burn the world itself by way of taking the world hostage'. Due to the wildly overleveraged nature of capital it's not an idle threat: these entities may be in a position to go 'well then, if we suffer the slightest penalty we will trigger global/countrywide economic disaster' with some credibility. The overall economic system is anything but healthy, so the threat is legitimate. However, there comes a time people don't even care anymore, they just want to see something resembling justice. That point seemingly approaches.
    - lightedman 10y ago
      "these entities may be in a position to go 'well then, if we suffer the slightest penalty we will trigger global/countrywide economic disaster' with some credibility" That's when we're supposed to step in and end their terrorist selves.

by sooheon 10y ago

pm90 10y ago

He/She may have been speaking hyperbolically. There is no way (well, short of Korean War v2) that the Korean economy will be "burned to the ground" by what is going on. In fact, seeing all the thousands of young Koreans clamoring for accountability is just what the country and society needs. Remember that strong rule of law and impartial judicial system took a long time to sink roots in western society. The patrimony that currently exists in elite Korean society must end to enable Koreans to better tackle the problems of 21st century.

pcurve 10y ago

That was a poor phrasing on my part. What I meant to say was something along the line of, "people are willing to take big hits to see reforms take place". I don't think their world is burning. With all the turmoils going on in parts of the globe, world-burning would be a hyperbolic characterization. I do feel that it's been on a slow roast for the past 20 years, with temperature steadily rising each year. At some point, the situation becomes intolerable for critical mass, and people will jump out without looking; some not caring if it is straight into frying pan. I think we are there now. I've never seen this level of frustration since the late 80s.

kobeya 10y ago
Usually putting corruption behind bars isn't described as "taking a big hit".
- Applejinx 10y ago
  I think the implication may be along the lines of 'the huge corporation will intentionally burn the world itself by way of taking the world hostage'. Due to the wildly overleveraged nature of capital it's not an idle threat: these entities may be in a position to go 'well then, if we suffer the slightest penalty we will trigger global/countrywide economic disaster' with some credibility. The overall economic system is anything but healthy, so the threat is legitimate. However, there comes a time people don't even care anymore, they just want to see something resembling justice. That point seemingly approaches.
  - lightedman 10y ago
    "these entities may be in a position to go 'well then, if we suffer the slightest penalty we will trigger global/countrywide economic disaster' with some credibility" That's when we're supposed to step in and end their terrorist selves.