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It's pretty normal and you will get used to it quickly. Thanks to this pattern it's very hard to ignore errors. The only think that could be done better is ins

by sly010 10y ago

It's pretty normal and you will get used to it quickly. Thanks to this pattern it's very hard to ignore errors. The only think that could be done better is instead of always blindly returning an error, one could wrap them in higher level errors and build a sort of error trace: E.g: - task failed because - authentication failed because - could not load credentials because - because file xy.pem is not readable But instead of the above, you often just receive a "permission error", but you don't know where it came from, which can make debugging hard. Edit: formatting

jsk2600 10y ago
Thank you ! >instead of always blindly returning an error, one could wrap them in higher level errors and build a sort of error trace Isn't that basically just reinventing exceptions, sort-of ?
- sly010 10y ago
  Basically. It's a little different because you have more control. It's way too easy to assume exceptions won't happen and basically ignore them. But they happen in unexpected places (e.g. every time when dealing with IO). Exceptions only contain a function call trace (stack of function calls), while a logical error trace is more like an explicit try/catch/wrap/throw around every call and could be more informative to the end user if done properly.
- supremesaboteur 10y ago
  This does not require exceptions. A very simple implementation could involve appending the additional error to the messsage from the lower error level. As far as I understand, exceptions were invented so that error handling code will not clutter up the "happy path". They allow "exceptional condition handling" to be seggregated. But in real world applications you may need to, say, recover from an error. For example, if connection using https fails, fallback to http. This makes code using exceptions look wonky. So might as well use error codes always

by sly010 10y ago

jsk2600 10y ago

Thank you ! >instead of always blindly returning an error, one could wrap them in higher level errors and build a sort of error trace Isn't that basically just reinventing exceptions, sort-of ?

sly010 10y ago
Basically. It's a little different because you have more control. It's way too easy to assume exceptions won't happen and basically ignore them. But they happen in unexpected places (e.g. every time when dealing with IO). Exceptions only contain a function call trace (stack of function calls), while a logical error trace is more like an explicit try/catch/wrap/throw around every call and could be more informative to the end user if done properly.
supremesaboteur 10y ago
This does not require exceptions. A very simple implementation could involve appending the additional error to the messsage from the lower error level. As far as I understand, exceptions were invented so that error handling code will not clutter up the "happy path". They allow "exceptional condition handling" to be seggregated. But in real world applications you may need to, say, recover from an error. For example, if connection using https fails, fallback to http. This makes code using exceptions look wonky. So might as well use error codes always