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I would be kind of okay with this if I could just turn around. We think you are a risk, either show us your phone - and we may or may not allow you to enter aft
by danbruc 10y ago
I would be kind of okay with this if I could just turn around. We think you are a risk, either show us your phone - and we may or may not allow you to enter after looking at it - or take the next airplane home. It would be nice, if you would tell me this before I waste my time and money to go on the flight so that I can decide in advance if I am willing to find out how looking at my phone will influence your assessment of me. But I certainly see how telling this in advance would be problematic or undesirable.
But once you start to arrest me, I really want to know why you are doing this and I surely think that I am entitled to get this information. You don't have to tell me which undersea cables you tapped to get your information but just telling me that you think I am violating an unspecified law certainly doesn't cut it.
I am still a human not found guilty by any court and you need good reasons to take away my freedom, citizen or not. And you owe me an explanation so that I can take appropriate measures to resolve the situation.
- bflesch 10y agoThe country you're travelling to doesn't owe you anything. In some areas of the world, border guards will shoot or rob you. If you don't take part in any shit that annoys the powers that be, you will most likely never be approached by border guards at all. I really think that as citizens of the western world we are in no position to argue that travelling between countries is bad or cumbersome for us. Edit: To answer your reply, it is not a human right to be allowed to go into a certain country.
- danbruc 10y agoEvery country owes you basic human rights. Sure, even basic human rights are just a concept humans invented and you can certainly have a country that just says no, we believe the idea of basic human rights is wrong. That would certainly be a very nice place to live. I on the other hand would certainly refrain from visiting it.
- anigbrowl 10y agoRights are only as strong as your ability to assert them.
- danbruc 10y agoSo I should probably bring guns and explosives to the airport to lend some weight to my rights in case somebody has a differing opinion. That could turn out quite interesting... And now I am left wondering if comments like this make it harder to get through the airport. How humorless and paranoid is the system?
- anigbrowl 10y agoWell there are few penalties for ignoring international law, so while I share your love of the concept I have to recognize that without teeth international law isn't going to protect you from a bad government, wherever that happens to be. A few people have been prosecuted in the International Criminal Court, but I don't think that's a serious deterrent to most international actors.