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> 4,444 cellphones and 320 other electronic devices were inspected in 2015 And recently I'm hearing about this -- it largely went ignored during the previous a

by ronnier 10y ago

> 4,444 cellphones and 320 other electronic devices were inspected in 2015 And recently I'm hearing about this -- it largely went ignored during the previous administration but now it's a major concern, articles on HN, my Facebook feed, Reddit, ...

bryanlarsen 10y ago
The ACLU was fighting this under Obama, and some of the many millions of dollars they gathered from Trump opponents will be used to fight this and other causes under POTUS 46.
- ronnier 10y ago
  Good. We should care about this regardless if we like the administration or not.
joosteto 10y ago
Many stories on HN, for example: 2016: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11984609 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11984609 2013: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6309618 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6309618
jrochkind1 10y ago
I had read about it on HN multiple times during the Obama administration too. As well as heard about it from the ACLU and EFF, as well as other places. A HN post from 2014, with 258 upvotes, linking to an ACLU notice from 2014. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6993995 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6993995 That's just the first HN post I found, there were multiple other front-page HN posts over the past few years. An EFF alert from 2013: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/08/unjustified-detention-david-miranda-points-larger-problem-suspicionless-border https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/08/unjustified-detention-... A Mother Jones article from 2014: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/how-fourth-amendment-not-protect http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/how-fourth-amend... The Committee to Protect Journalists in 2014: https://cpj.org/blog/2014/10/for-journalists-coming-into-us-policies-that-borde.php https://cpj.org/blog/2014/10/for-journalists-coming-into-us-... If you're trying to make the point that there are _some_ people that are Democratic Party partisans and ignore civil and human rights violations from Democrats -- yes, there are, I agree, and it can be infuriating. But it's not everyone, it's not the ACLU, it's not the EFF, and it's not even representative of what stories got posted to and upvoted on HN during the Obama administration. Many of us have been paying attention to this issue unhappily for years. I am hoping the upsurge in resistance to Trump means that more people have been activated to oppose much the same things when a future Democratic or "more reasonable" Republican administration tries them too.
- ronnier 10y ago
  Looks like I was wrong. Good thing to be wrong on.
  - jrochkind1 10y ago
    If _you_ weren't paying attention to this issue until now, you'd have to ask yourself why not. :) Many of us have been.

by ronnier 10y ago

bryanlarsen 10y ago

The ACLU was fighting this under Obama, and some of the many millions of dollars they gathered from Trump opponents will be used to fight this and other causes under POTUS 46.

ronnier 10y ago
Good. We should care about this regardless if we like the administration or not.

joosteto 10y ago

Many stories on HN, for example: 2016: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11984609 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11984609 2013: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6309618 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6309618

jrochkind1 10y ago

I had read about it on HN multiple times during the Obama administration too. As well as heard about it from the ACLU and EFF, as well as other places. A HN post from 2014, with 258 upvotes, linking to an ACLU notice from 2014. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6993995 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6993995 That's just the first HN post I found, there were multiple other front-page HN posts over the past few years. An EFF alert from 2013: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/08/unjustified-detention-david-miranda-points-larger-problem-suspicionless-border https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/08/unjustified-detention-... A Mother Jones article from 2014: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/how-fourth-amendment-not-protect http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/how-fourth-amend... The Committee to Protect Journalists in 2014: https://cpj.org/blog/2014/10/for-journalists-coming-into-us-policies-that-borde.php https://cpj.org/blog/2014/10/for-journalists-coming-into-us-... If you're trying to make the point that there are _some_ people that are Democratic Party partisans and ignore civil and human rights violations from Democrats -- yes, there are, I agree, and it can be infuriating. But it's not everyone, it's not the ACLU, it's not the EFF, and it's not even representative of what stories got posted to and upvoted on HN during the Obama administration. Many of us have been paying attention to this issue unhappily for years. I am hoping the upsurge in resistance to Trump means that more people have been activated to oppose much the same things when a future Democratic or "more reasonable" Republican administration tries them too.

ronnier 10y ago
Looks like I was wrong. Good thing to be wrong on.
- jrochkind1 10y ago
  If _you_ weren't paying attention to this issue until now, you'd have to ask yourself why not. :) Many of us have been.