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Is there some benefit to giving a fuck? I think we're at the point where we respect people enough to just say, "Yup, I don't care what sort of junk my boss has

Is there some benefit to giving a fuck? I think we're at the point where we respect people enough to just say, "Yup, I don't care what sort of junk my boss has, or what color it is, or what other kinds of junk s/he likes to bump it with." The intent of the article is to say we should have some sort of mandated demographics among leadership or in the board room? Because trying to pick a c-team to match up with census data seems like it would mean not picking a c-team based on merit. The color and kind and intent of junk should probably just not be something that we give a fuck about.

douche 10y ago
> Is there some benefit to giving a fuck? I haven't seen one yet, save maybe doing so publicly in order to properly virtue-signal and keep the torches-and-pitchfork brigade off your back. It gets very wearisome being berated all the time about diversity , when you just want to go build things. The compiler doesn't care if you're black, white, brown, or purple, and, honestly, I'm very suspicious of anyone who is more interested in the color of ones skin or, as you put it, the configuration of their junk, over getting the job done, done right, and done quickly.
richmarr 10y ago
> Is there some benefit to giving a fuck? Yes. Studies show diverse teams perform better... (and incidentally they also show that people who believe themselves to be unbiased are actually more likely to make biased decisions).
- dbg31415 10y ago
  Going to call BS on this. "Studies show..." -- without a citation seems like an opinion. Lab experiments using mock juries is all I'm finding. Doesn't quite seem relevant to technology teams. Most teams are distribute these days... so literally, other than Google Hangouts and conference calls, I don't get any daily indicators about my team's composition. I don't think it would matter if we did, but I don't see any studies that pertain to tech about diversity improving productivity.
  - richmarr 10y ago
    Ellison/Mullin (2014) used 8 years of data from professional services firms in 60 locations. Is that close enough to tech? You assert that distributed teams change the relationship between diversity and productivity, but I assume you're doing that without evidence, right? What's that opinion based on?

douche 10y ago

> Is there some benefit to giving a fuck? I haven't seen one yet, save maybe doing so publicly in order to properly virtue-signal and keep the torches-and-pitchfork brigade off your back. It gets very wearisome being berated all the time about diversity , when you just want to go build things. The compiler doesn't care if you're black, white, brown, or purple, and, honestly, I'm very suspicious of anyone who is more interested in the color of ones skin or, as you put it, the configuration of their junk, over getting the job done, done right, and done quickly.

richmarr 10y ago

> Is there some benefit to giving a fuck? Yes. Studies show diverse teams perform better... (and incidentally they also show that people who believe themselves to be unbiased are actually more likely to make biased decisions).

dbg31415 10y ago
Going to call BS on this. "Studies show..." -- without a citation seems like an opinion. Lab experiments using mock juries is all I'm finding. Doesn't quite seem relevant to technology teams. Most teams are distribute these days... so literally, other than Google Hangouts and conference calls, I don't get any daily indicators about my team's composition. I don't think it would matter if we did, but I don't see any studies that pertain to tech about diversity improving productivity.
- richmarr 10y ago
  Ellison/Mullin (2014) used 8 years of data from professional services firms in 60 locations. Is that close enough to tech? You assert that distributed teams change the relationship between diversity and productivity, but I assume you're doing that without evidence, right? What's that opinion based on?