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I don't think that really says anything about Delphi and everything about the massive complexity of large software. I get regular crashes with a bunch of stuff

I don't think that really says anything about Delphi and everything about the massive complexity of large software. I get regular crashes with a bunch of stuff (everything from Thunar (don't think that shows C has aged badly), Chrome (C++) and Intellij (Java).

tonyedgecombe 10y ago
Some languages make it harder than others, there is a whole class of bugs that just disappear when you have garbage collection for instance.
- noir_lord 10y ago
  I agree but a large program in one of those languages will still have more bugs than a small one, that's just the nature of things and the increase in bugs isn't linear either in my experience.
digler999 10y ago
The thunar-crashing thing was introduced. A few years back it was stable, then sometime around a year or 2 ago it broke. Sad to see a good piece of software take a step back (proper testing should have prohibited that, shouldn't it ?).
aylons 10y ago
I half agree with you. It surely shows the massive complexity of large software, for sure. On the other hand, the tool should help prevent these issues. Altium has visible exceptions and lots of memory leaks that are much easier to prevent or solve with modern development tools and languages. Also, C aged badly, but the tools (ecosystem seems to be the hip name nowadays) for C evolved, and in a smaller scale, even the language itself has evolved. Object Pascal and Delphi doesn't seem to be catch up so well.
- TimJYoung 10y ago
  Modern Delphi has a simple flag that you can set that will show you a log of every memory leak in your application when you shut it down, and there are 3rd party exception handling and profilers/analyzers that can be purchased for a few hundred dollars that will take care of finding/fixing AVs/performance bottlenecks. It's actually quite easy to create solid and reliable applications using Delphi if you follow solid software development practices.

tonyedgecombe 10y ago

Some languages make it harder than others, there is a whole class of bugs that just disappear when you have garbage collection for instance.

noir_lord 10y ago
I agree but a large program in one of those languages will still have more bugs than a small one, that's just the nature of things and the increase in bugs isn't linear either in my experience.

digler999 10y ago

The thunar-crashing thing was introduced. A few years back it was stable, then sometime around a year or 2 ago it broke. Sad to see a good piece of software take a step back (proper testing should have prohibited that, shouldn't it ?).

aylons 10y ago

I half agree with you. It surely shows the massive complexity of large software, for sure. On the other hand, the tool should help prevent these issues. Altium has visible exceptions and lots of memory leaks that are much easier to prevent or solve with modern development tools and languages. Also, C aged badly, but the tools (ecosystem seems to be the hip name nowadays) for C evolved, and in a smaller scale, even the language itself has evolved. Object Pascal and Delphi doesn't seem to be catch up so well.

TimJYoung 10y ago
Modern Delphi has a simple flag that you can set that will show you a log of every memory leak in your application when you shut it down, and there are 3rd party exception handling and profilers/analyzers that can be purchased for a few hundred dollars that will take care of finding/fixing AVs/performance bottlenecks. It's actually quite easy to create solid and reliable applications using Delphi if you follow solid software development practices.