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> Without going into an argument about the relative importance, shouldn't at least some significant portion be distributed towards solving the human and civil r

by cleansy 10y ago

> Without going into an argument about the relative importance, shouldn't at least some significant portion be distributed towards solving the human and civil rights, liberties, and justice abuses here in America? I would guess that a country with stable institutions, high GDP per capita value, democracy and the highest absolute military spending this issue could be addressed in the ballot box. In the richest democracies on earth fixing these issues is a question of resource allocation. And plenty of organizations are working towards that already.

wallace_f 10y ago
> this issue could be addressed in the ballot box I don't believe that is true. Recent history is especially illustrative of this.
- idiot_stick 10y ago
  >Recent history is especially illustrative of this. Are you referring to Trump's election? Well, some people's problems were solved by the ballot box, and they got their man elected. The fact that you disagree with the politics doesn't negate the system working as intended.
  - wallace_f 10y ago
    Well, for instance, I supported clemency for Bradley Manning, and that Edward Snowden should be honored as a patriot for risking his own welfare to stand up for the people of America against illegal government abuses. I had no choice in the election in that matter. I did have some hope with Bernie, but all of the subversion against him by the DNC my hope was burned to shreds. So there's an example of how, one of the most important issues, has no ability to be addressed in the ballot box in recent history.
- bowersbros 10y ago
  More money wouldn't help that cause though. The US doesn't need the billions to solve issues, it already has it. The lack of solutions in the US is due to people not working towards them, not the resources being lacked.
  - wallace_f 10y ago
    I disagree. Money is not the only motivation, but it is the most reliable to model as the primary reason why people work.

by cleansy 10y ago

wallace_f 10y ago

> this issue could be addressed in the ballot box I don't believe that is true. Recent history is especially illustrative of this.

idiot_stick 10y ago
>Recent history is especially illustrative of this. Are you referring to Trump's election? Well, some people's problems were solved by the ballot box, and they got their man elected. The fact that you disagree with the politics doesn't negate the system working as intended.
- wallace_f 10y ago
  Well, for instance, I supported clemency for Bradley Manning, and that Edward Snowden should be honored as a patriot for risking his own welfare to stand up for the people of America against illegal government abuses. I had no choice in the election in that matter. I did have some hope with Bernie, but all of the subversion against him by the DNC my hope was burned to shreds. So there's an example of how, one of the most important issues, has no ability to be addressed in the ballot box in recent history.
bowersbros 10y ago
More money wouldn't help that cause though. The US doesn't need the billions to solve issues, it already has it. The lack of solutions in the US is due to people not working towards them, not the resources being lacked.
- wallace_f 10y ago
  I disagree. Money is not the only motivation, but it is the most reliable to model as the primary reason why people work.