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Casual ad hoc surveillance can be very useful for law enforcement. It can save a tremendous amount of time and money keeping track of where people are and where
by upofadown 10y ago
Casual ad hoc surveillance can be very useful for law enforcement. It can save a tremendous amount of time and money keeping track of where people are and where they are planning to be. The fact that the information gained is not admissible in court is not important. From the article:
>“You guys picking up any information? Where they're going, possibly?"
Law enforcement has become somewhat dependent on this sort of access and would not be able to do their job as effectively without it. Hence the desperation shown by the use of things like Stingrays where the network is actively attacked in what is arguably a straight up illegal way.
- naasking 10y ago> Law enforcement has become somewhat dependent on this sort of access and would not be able to do their job as effectively without it. I've seen this claim repeated, but never with any evidence.
- upofadown 10y agoIt doesn't matter if the claim is objectively true just as long as law enforcement people continue to believe it. ... and it is obvious from comments coming out of that community that they do. What has to happen now is that law enforcement has to come clean and there has to be a public discussion about this stuff. Otherwise the private and public hand wringing will continue indefinitely and things will continue to get worse. The general public is ultimately responsible here as they are effectively the boss of the law enforcement people. We need to take the time to understand why our employees are acting the way they are.
- wwweston 10y ago"Effectively." "Why are you looking for the lost keys by the lamppost when they were lost on the other side of the street?" "Well, it's dark over there, and the lamppost is where the light is."