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Maybe, but I don't know when I might need it in the future, and when the time comes it's already too late. That is why I'm interested in this topic now. That is

by jazoom 10y ago

Maybe, but I don't know when I might need it in the future, and when the time comes it's already too late. That is why I'm interested in this topic now. That is also why I'm not dismissing the idea because of some possible charges that might be laid against me by some possible border control person some time in the future. I have nothing to hide personally. I'm more concerned about business secrets and SSH keys.

type0 10y ago
> I have nothing to hide personally. I'm more concerned about business secrets and SSH keys. If you have nothing to hide you should have nothing to fear. Because you know that US is never involved in industrial espionage and Snowden NSA leaks have allegedly never happened.
oAlbe 10y ago
> I have nothing to hide personally. You do. And even if you don't, you should hide it anyway. Please stop using that sentence at all. “Never say anything in an electronic message that you wouldn’t want appearing, and attributed to you, in tomorrow morning’s front-page headline in the New York Times.” — Colonel David Russell, former head of DARPA’s Information Processing Techniques Office
- jazoom 10y ago
  You probably shouldn't assume you know people you've never met. Besides, I don't think my data is any more likely to end up in some newspaper if a government agent gets it than if (when) Google gets hacked.
  - khedoros1 10y ago
    > You probably shouldn't assume you know people you've never met. Good advice, in general. I've never met anyone that didn't have something to hide from someone, though. But you're making an even stronger claim: That nothing that you've said or done will ever be something that you'd want to keep private. When data gets out, you don't get to call it back, even when circumstances in the world change.
    - jazoom 10y ago
      I'm well aware of that. There's nothing on my phone I'd be ashamed to have exposed. Like I said, SSH keys are a concern. In fact, your country's president probably wouldn't care too much if the stuff on his phone was exposed. He seems to be more than happy to make public all his thoughts and opinions.
      - jerf 10y ago
        "There's nothing on my phone I'd be ashamed to have exposed." That's the wrong question, though. (Despite the quote above.) The question is, do you have anything on your phone that someday a government may decide is a reason to do something bad to you? The answer is always yes for two reasons: One, you can't know the future and what it will hold, for instance governments can make laws explicitly for the purpose of "getting" people, and two, the possible set of future governments pretty much has no safe behavior intersection.
        jazoom 10y ago
        The whole point of my earlier comment was that I want a way to wipe my phone. I think that has been lost.
        Sacho 10y ago
        I thought the point of your earlier comment was that you wanted a way to load different profiles. Otherwise, factory reset seems like a legitimate solution.
        jazoom 10y ago
        Either a duress passcode or different profiles, depending on whether I think I'll get my phone back.

by jazoom 10y ago

type0 10y ago

> I have nothing to hide personally. I'm more concerned about business secrets and SSH keys. If you have nothing to hide you should have nothing to fear. Because you know that US is never involved in industrial espionage and Snowden NSA leaks have allegedly never happened.

oAlbe 10y ago

> I have nothing to hide personally. You do. And even if you don't, you should hide it anyway. Please stop using that sentence at all. “Never say anything in an electronic message that you wouldn’t want appearing, and attributed to you, in tomorrow morning’s front-page headline in the New York Times.” — Colonel David Russell, former head of DARPA’s Information Processing Techniques Office

jazoom 10y ago
You probably shouldn't assume you know people you've never met. Besides, I don't think my data is any more likely to end up in some newspaper if a government agent gets it than if (when) Google gets hacked.
- khedoros1 10y ago
  > You probably shouldn't assume you know people you've never met. Good advice, in general. I've never met anyone that didn't have something to hide from someone, though. But you're making an even stronger claim: That nothing that you've said or done will ever be something that you'd want to keep private. When data gets out, you don't get to call it back, even when circumstances in the world change.
  - jazoom 10y ago
    I'm well aware of that. There's nothing on my phone I'd be ashamed to have exposed. Like I said, SSH keys are a concern. In fact, your country's president probably wouldn't care too much if the stuff on his phone was exposed. He seems to be more than happy to make public all his thoughts and opinions.
    - jerf 10y ago
      "There's nothing on my phone I'd be ashamed to have exposed." That's the wrong question, though. (Despite the quote above.) The question is, do you have anything on your phone that someday a government may decide is a reason to do something bad to you? The answer is always yes for two reasons: One, you can't know the future and what it will hold, for instance governments can make laws explicitly for the purpose of "getting" people, and two, the possible set of future governments pretty much has no safe behavior intersection.
      - jazoom 10y ago
        The whole point of my earlier comment was that I want a way to wipe my phone. I think that has been lost.
        Sacho 10y ago
        I thought the point of your earlier comment was that you wanted a way to load different profiles. Otherwise, factory reset seems like a legitimate solution.
        jazoom 10y ago
        Either a duress passcode or different profiles, depending on whether I think I'll get my phone back.