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That's not the same thing, and nowhere near as helpful. Why would I want to wipe my phone every border cross if I don't have to?

by jazoom 10y ago

eridius 10y ago
admax88q said they wanted a mode where it wipes your phone. That mode is called "factory reset". If what you want is a mode that wipes your phone only when a CBP agent looks at it, as other people have stated in the comments here, you'd probably be committing some sort of crime (e.g. destruction of evidence or lying to a federal agent). The only truly safe way to cross is to not actually have your data when you cross, not to try and throw it away once you get singled out by agents.
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- jazoom 10y ago
  I assume you're thinking about USA, which is a country I have no desire to visit.
  - khedoros1 10y ago
    If you aren't planning on going to the US or to whichever other countries might try something similar, then I suppose it's a moot point for you, and you don't need to worry about your phone at all. But if your home government started treating you unreasonably, you might also be interested in having a discussion about possible reactions to the new policies, right?
    - jazoom 10y ago
      Maybe, but I don't know when I might need it in the future, and when the time comes it's already too late. That is why I'm interested in this topic now. That is also why I'm not dismissing the idea because of some possible charges that might be laid against me by some possible border control person some time in the future. I have nothing to hide personally. I'm more concerned about business secrets and SSH keys.
      - type0 10y ago
        > I have nothing to hide personally. I'm more concerned about business secrets and SSH keys. If you have nothing to hide you should have nothing to fear. Because you know that US is never involved in industrial espionage and Snowden NSA leaks have allegedly never happened.
      - oAlbe 10y ago
        > I have nothing to hide personally. You do. And even if you don't, you should hide it anyway. Please stop using that sentence at all. “Never say anything in an electronic message that you wouldn’t want appearing, and attributed to you, in tomorrow morning’s front-page headline in the New York Times.” — Colonel David Russell, former head of DARPA’s Information Processing Techniques Office
        jazoom 10y ago
        You probably shouldn't assume you know people you've never met. Besides, I don't think my data is any more likely to end up in some newspaper if a government agent gets it than if (when) Google gets hacked.
        khedoros1 10y ago
        > You probably shouldn't assume you know people you've never met. Good advice, in general. I've never met anyone that didn't have something to hide from someone, though. But you're making an even stronger claim: That nothing that you've said or done will ever be something that you'd want to keep private. When data gets out, you don't get to call it back, even when circumstances in the world change.
        jazoom 10y ago
        I'm well aware of that. There's nothing on my phone I'd be ashamed to have exposed. Like I said, SSH keys are a concern. In fact, your country's president probably wouldn't care too much if the stuff on his phone was exposed. He seems to be more than happy to make public all his thoughts and opinions.
- admax88q 10y ago
  Yes factory reset is pretty much the same thing I was proposing. The only missing piece is a easy way to restore the phone once I reach my destination.
  - eridius 10y ago
    iCloud backup. It's pretty darn easy to restore an iPhone after factory reset (as long as you have a decent internet connection and are willing to wait for however long it takes to reinstall all your apps and download all your data from the backup).

That's not the same thing, and nowhere near as helpful. Why would I want to wipe my phone every border cross if I don't have to?

by jazoom 10y ago

That's not the same thing, and nowhere near as helpful. Why would I want to wipe my phone every border cross if I don't have to?

eridius 10y ago

admax88q said they wanted a mode where it wipes your phone. That mode is called "factory reset". If what you want is a mode that wipes your phone only when a CBP agent looks at it, as other people have stated in the comments here, you'd probably be committing some sort of crime (e.g. destruction of evidence or lying to a federal agent). The only truly safe way to cross is to not actually have your data when you cross, not to try and throw it away once you get singled out by agents.

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jazoom 10y ago
I assume you're thinking about USA, which is a country I have no desire to visit.
- khedoros1 10y ago
  If you aren't planning on going to the US or to whichever other countries might try something similar, then I suppose it's a moot point for you, and you don't need to worry about your phone at all. But if your home government started treating you unreasonably, you might also be interested in having a discussion about possible reactions to the new policies, right?
  - jazoom 10y ago
    Maybe, but I don't know when I might need it in the future, and when the time comes it's already too late. That is why I'm interested in this topic now. That is also why I'm not dismissing the idea because of some possible charges that might be laid against me by some possible border control person some time in the future. I have nothing to hide personally. I'm more concerned about business secrets and SSH keys.
    - type0 10y ago
      > I have nothing to hide personally. I'm more concerned about business secrets and SSH keys. If you have nothing to hide you should have nothing to fear. Because you know that US is never involved in industrial espionage and Snowden NSA leaks have allegedly never happened.
    - oAlbe 10y ago
      > I have nothing to hide personally. You do. And even if you don't, you should hide it anyway. Please stop using that sentence at all. “Never say anything in an electronic message that you wouldn’t want appearing, and attributed to you, in tomorrow morning’s front-page headline in the New York Times.” — Colonel David Russell, former head of DARPA’s Information Processing Techniques Office
      - jazoom 10y ago
        You probably shouldn't assume you know people you've never met. Besides, I don't think my data is any more likely to end up in some newspaper if a government agent gets it than if (when) Google gets hacked.
        khedoros1 10y ago
        > You probably shouldn't assume you know people you've never met. Good advice, in general. I've never met anyone that didn't have something to hide from someone, though. But you're making an even stronger claim: That nothing that you've said or done will ever be something that you'd want to keep private. When data gets out, you don't get to call it back, even when circumstances in the world change.
        jazoom 10y ago
        I'm well aware of that. There's nothing on my phone I'd be ashamed to have exposed. Like I said, SSH keys are a concern. In fact, your country's president probably wouldn't care too much if the stuff on his phone was exposed. He seems to be more than happy to make public all his thoughts and opinions.
admax88q 10y ago
Yes factory reset is pretty much the same thing I was proposing. The only missing piece is a easy way to restore the phone once I reach my destination.
- eridius 10y ago
  iCloud backup. It's pretty darn easy to restore an iPhone after factory reset (as long as you have a decent internet connection and are willing to wait for however long it takes to reinstall all your apps and download all your data from the backup).