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Short answer: no. Long answer: no, because: For $reasons I accidentally ended up on a calorie controlled diet, something around 1600-1800 a day. This persiste

Short answer: no. Long answer: no, because: For $reasons I accidentally ended up on a calorie controlled diet, something around 1600-1800 a day. This persisted for too long. Basically I felt like I was on the edge of a cold all the time. Anything activity like cycling was utterly draining. The world was very dull and grey indeed. Now, I suspect that what they are talking about here is diet and calorie control (I wasn't eating rice). I doubt it was as extreme as what 1800 kcals a day is for a 6ft3 male. Now, there were other factors that may or may not have contributed to the feeling of utter "urgh" however, I don't see how its fun to like on a calorie controlled diet, unless you grew up with it.

gukov 10y ago
Despite what everybody says, all calories are not equal. Were you eating fast carbs like bread?
bitL 10y ago
If you could, move to a sunny state, it's easier to be on such a diet and full of energy if you are in warmer climate. Once during winter I did keto, daily cold shower, daily HIIT, 3-4x strength training/week and then I lost all energy and got sick for a month. I did the same in summer and it was all great.
- dokument 10y ago
  Did you take into account your extra energy requirements in the winter? Your body has to keep you warm and this uses energy. It would be interesting to have an app or wearable that could help you keep up with intake based off of your environment (e.g. yesterday you walked n+10 miles and it was cold, you should eat more today than normal).
  - bitL 10y ago
    No, I didn't at that time. An app like one you mention would have to observe you first and see which foods give you what amount of energy, as your body is cherry-picking compatible food to some extent and burning rate is highly individual, probably even depending on your gut bacteria and how they pre-process your food. What works for one person won't for another :(
- mixedCase 10y ago
  >and then I lost all energy and got sick for a month. Let me guess... pretty bad headaches and maybe what feels like palpitations, specially when laying down?
  - navs 10y ago
    I get something similar especially with the headaches. Did you end up getting off the caloric restrictive diet or tone down on the exercise?
    - mixedCase 10y ago
      To get your energy back, you have to do little or no calorie restriction, 500 calorie deficit tops. I'd say start first with no calorie deficit (even if it's hard on a fat diet because you feel full) and see if that improves it. For the headaches and the rest, you have to up your electrolytes: sodium, potassium and magnessium. Your body on ketosis will excrete much more of them than usual. Occasionally I get a pretty bad headache that goes away with 1/2 a teaspoon of salt, sometimes even more.
bpchaps 10y ago
Been there, and can confirm. Six months of a restricted diet for $probably_similar_reasons does some interesting things to you. The body aches were definitely some of the worst parts, but for me, the worst part was the mental garbage that rides alongside. Maslow's hierarchy can be a huge kick in the teeth.

gukov 10y ago

Despite what everybody says, all calories are not equal. Were you eating fast carbs like bread?

bitL 10y ago

If you could, move to a sunny state, it's easier to be on such a diet and full of energy if you are in warmer climate. Once during winter I did keto, daily cold shower, daily HIIT, 3-4x strength training/week and then I lost all energy and got sick for a month. I did the same in summer and it was all great.

dokument 10y ago
Did you take into account your extra energy requirements in the winter? Your body has to keep you warm and this uses energy. It would be interesting to have an app or wearable that could help you keep up with intake based off of your environment (e.g. yesterday you walked n+10 miles and it was cold, you should eat more today than normal).
- bitL 10y ago
  No, I didn't at that time. An app like one you mention would have to observe you first and see which foods give you what amount of energy, as your body is cherry-picking compatible food to some extent and burning rate is highly individual, probably even depending on your gut bacteria and how they pre-process your food. What works for one person won't for another :(
mixedCase 10y ago
>and then I lost all energy and got sick for a month. Let me guess... pretty bad headaches and maybe what feels like palpitations, specially when laying down?
- navs 10y ago
  I get something similar especially with the headaches. Did you end up getting off the caloric restrictive diet or tone down on the exercise?
  - mixedCase 10y ago
    To get your energy back, you have to do little or no calorie restriction, 500 calorie deficit tops. I'd say start first with no calorie deficit (even if it's hard on a fat diet because you feel full) and see if that improves it. For the headaches and the rest, you have to up your electrolytes: sodium, potassium and magnessium. Your body on ketosis will excrete much more of them than usual. Occasionally I get a pretty bad headache that goes away with 1/2 a teaspoon of salt, sometimes even more.

bpchaps 10y ago

Been there, and can confirm. Six months of a restricted diet for $probably_similar_reasons does some interesting things to you. The body aches were definitely some of the worst parts, but for me, the worst part was the mental garbage that rides alongside. Maslow's hierarchy can be a huge kick in the teeth.