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Users aren't clicking on it? Better shove it in their face so it's noticed. I like the solution of not showing the navbar unless the user scrolls up. IMO, fix

Users aren't clicking on it? Better shove it in their face so it's noticed. I like the solution of not showing the navbar unless the user scrolls up. IMO, fixed navbars are almost as bad as popups.

nathcd 10y ago
> I like the solution of not showing the navbar unless the user scrolls up. Oh man, I've gotta strongly disagree with this. To me, those are just distracting and in practice often end up being fidgety. For tall webpages I think an easy and simple alternative is having a link like <a href="#">top</a> at the bottom of the document or wherever it makes sense. Unfortunately it seems like many designers don't really go for easy and simple.
- Ajedi32 10y ago
  Eh, those links tend to be difficult to find and not very useful in my experience. Usually it's not much harder to just scroll back to the top manually. Plus the "show on scroll up" bars have the advantage of making it easy to access the top navigation without losing your place on the page, which is useful if you just want to open a link from the top bar in a new tab or quickly check your notifications or something.
- mathw 10y ago
  I find the ones that reappear when you scroll up are quite annoying, particularly on mobile which is, sadly, where you actually need them more! In this case, I am utterly indifferent to Stack Overflow's being fixed. At least it's not going to surprise me.
hashhar 10y ago
It's toggleable. The default right now is opt-out. But I think it can be made opt-in for logged in users and opt-out for anons (to make them remember and notice where they came, most don't even notice the url when searching the internet).
thaumasiotes 10y ago
> I like the solution of not showing the navbar unless the user scrolls up. Absolutely not. Bloomberg does this; it just means the "scroll up" feature is broken. You try to scroll up, and you get the navbar instead of the text you were trying to scroll to. If you're trying to add a feature that infuriates visitors several times over for every page of yours they view, then sure. If you don't want that, don't have stealth navbars.

Users aren't clicking on it? Better shove it in their face so it's noticed. I like the solution of not showing the navbar unless the user scrolls up. IMO, fixed navbars are almost as bad as popups.

nathcd 10y ago

> I like the solution of not showing the navbar unless the user scrolls up. Oh man, I've gotta strongly disagree with this. To me, those are just distracting and in practice often end up being fidgety. For tall webpages I think an easy and simple alternative is having a link like <a href="#">top</a> at the bottom of the document or wherever it makes sense. Unfortunately it seems like many designers don't really go for easy and simple.

Ajedi32 10y ago
Eh, those links tend to be difficult to find and not very useful in my experience. Usually it's not much harder to just scroll back to the top manually. Plus the "show on scroll up" bars have the advantage of making it easy to access the top navigation without losing your place on the page, which is useful if you just want to open a link from the top bar in a new tab or quickly check your notifications or something.
mathw 10y ago
I find the ones that reappear when you scroll up are quite annoying, particularly on mobile which is, sadly, where you actually need them more! In this case, I am utterly indifferent to Stack Overflow's being fixed. At least it's not going to surprise me.

hashhar 10y ago

It's toggleable. The default right now is opt-out. But I think it can be made opt-in for logged in users and opt-out for anons (to make them remember and notice where they came, most don't even notice the url when searching the internet).

thaumasiotes 10y ago

> I like the solution of not showing the navbar unless the user scrolls up. Absolutely not. Bloomberg does this; it just means the "scroll up" feature is broken. You try to scroll up, and you get the navbar instead of the text you were trying to scroll to. If you're trying to add a feature that infuriates visitors several times over for every page of yours they view, then sure. If you don't want that, don't have stealth navbars.