Anecdotally, I find GTK3 title bars much more aesthetically appealing. [1] If you like title bars, why not just openbox --replace? > I promise, people can spar

Anecdotally, I find GTK3 title bars much more aesthetically appealing. [1] If you like title bars, why not just openbox --replace? > I promise, people can spare 10 pixels of vertical space so that they can see the name of the application being run (and the name of documents open in said application), and have a very easy area to click on to move the window around with. Well-developed apps still have relevant titles. [1] Others, like gnome-calculator, don't, but that's developer's fault, not GTK3's. I use speedcrunch instead. > They also tend to result in applications that lack traditional menubars, which are very useful for complex programs. Applications are not at all forced to use CSDs. Sublime has a menu bar, and so do VSCode and Atom. > This is going to be horrendous to have to stop using Xfce now, too. > Sorry, I know HN doesn't like negativity, but this "change for the sake of it" stuff is getting really old Ironically, I find people overreact to changes all the time. Remember the reaction of people when Google changed their logo? With GTK2 going obsolete, there isn't really much of a choice for xfce. [1] http://imgur.com/a/wHTq9 http://imgur.com/a/wHTq9