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There is a middle ground of letting legitimate buyers purchase tickets and then selling them on the secondary market if they are unable to attend. Automated bo

by knz 10y ago

There is a middle ground of letting legitimate buyers purchase tickets and then selling them on the secondary market if they are unable to attend. Automated bots/teams of people buying many tickets purely for the sake of profit doesn't benefit anyone other than the scalpers.

rubber_duck 10y ago
>Automated bots/teams of people buying many tickets purely for the sake of profit doesn't benefit anyone other than the scalpers. He just told you - it benefits people who want to pay more but would otherwise have to rely on luck to buy the tickets - this is the entire reason the system works.
- rhino369 10y ago
  The people running the show could just sell the tickets using an auction mechanism. It doesn't make sense to let a middle man take a huge cut. Well it probably does make sense for PR reasons. Nobody wants to be the band/team/event gouging their fans.
  - rubber_duck 10y ago
    >Well it probably does make sense for PR reasons. Nobody wants to be the band/team/event gouging their fans. Yes and this is why they exist :)
- knz 10y ago
  > There is a middle ground of letting legitimate buyers purchase tickets and then selling them on the secondary market if they are unable to attend. And nothing stops those people from buying a ticket from someone who is no longer able to attend on StubHub. Bands aren't putting on a show so that their wealthiest fans can attend.
  - rubber_duck 10y ago
    >And nothing stops those people from buying a ticket from someone who is no longer able to attend on StubHub. And the difference between that and scalping to the buyer is ? If you can't bid on the price you're still relying on luck to get it which sucks if you want to pay more. So your argument was that only scalpers benefit - people who can now secure tickets at a markup also benefited.
    - knz 10y ago
      The difference is that hundreds if not thousands of fans for a large event are not automatically pushed to the more expensive secondary market for no reason other than profit making by a few people.
- SippinLean 10y ago
  It makes it nearly impossible for anything that isn't a machine to acquire retail tickets. When 496/500 GA tickets go to a bot, the scarcity and price are artificially inflated.
  - gpawl 10y ago
    It's not "artificial" any more than the retail price was artifically low. It's a ticket, any price is artificial.
- darpa_escapee 10y ago
  > it benefits people who want to pay more but would otherwise have to rely on luck to buy the tickets Where I come from we call these "better seats" or "VIP passes" and they are sold directly through a venue. Not through middlemen that only add value through the scarcity they create.

by knz 10y ago

rubber_duck 10y ago

>Automated bots/teams of people buying many tickets purely for the sake of profit doesn't benefit anyone other than the scalpers. He just told you - it benefits people who want to pay more but would otherwise have to rely on luck to buy the tickets - this is the entire reason the system works.

rhino369 10y ago
The people running the show could just sell the tickets using an auction mechanism. It doesn't make sense to let a middle man take a huge cut. Well it probably does make sense for PR reasons. Nobody wants to be the band/team/event gouging their fans.
- rubber_duck 10y ago
  >Well it probably does make sense for PR reasons. Nobody wants to be the band/team/event gouging their fans. Yes and this is why they exist :)
knz 10y ago
> There is a middle ground of letting legitimate buyers purchase tickets and then selling them on the secondary market if they are unable to attend. And nothing stops those people from buying a ticket from someone who is no longer able to attend on StubHub. Bands aren't putting on a show so that their wealthiest fans can attend.
- rubber_duck 10y ago
  >And nothing stops those people from buying a ticket from someone who is no longer able to attend on StubHub. And the difference between that and scalping to the buyer is ? If you can't bid on the price you're still relying on luck to get it which sucks if you want to pay more. So your argument was that only scalpers benefit - people who can now secure tickets at a markup also benefited.
  - knz 10y ago
    The difference is that hundreds if not thousands of fans for a large event are not automatically pushed to the more expensive secondary market for no reason other than profit making by a few people.
SippinLean 10y ago
It makes it nearly impossible for anything that isn't a machine to acquire retail tickets. When 496/500 GA tickets go to a bot, the scarcity and price are artificially inflated.
- gpawl 10y ago
  It's not "artificial" any more than the retail price was artifically low. It's a ticket, any price is artificial.
darpa_escapee 10y ago
> it benefits people who want to pay more but would otherwise have to rely on luck to buy the tickets Where I come from we call these "better seats" or "VIP passes" and they are sold directly through a venue. Not through middlemen that only add value through the scarcity they create.