Hear hear! That would be the end of 10(?) years of xfce for me. Evince for example now seems to use more vertical space for its header but with much less use,

Hear hear! That would be the end of 10(?) years of xfce for me. Evince for example now seems to use more vertical space for its header but with much less use, thanks to huge, flat, cryptic icons. Luckily there is a light version available that uses gtk 2. I also want to use my scrollwheel to scroll dropdown menus without opening them, or be able to select folders in an 'open' dialog without that stupid thing directly descending into them just because they were highlighted. Hrrrgahnng!