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I pulled my mac app http://www.ghostnoteapp.com http://www.ghostnoteapp.com from the appstore back in '15 only 5 months after launching it and haven't looked ba

I pulled my mac app http://www.ghostnoteapp.com http://www.ghostnoteapp.com from the appstore back in '15 only 5 months after launching it and haven't looked back since. It's still a pretty profitable app for me and I actually enjoy the freedom of not having to have it go through review process. For most mac apps people are googling rather than browsing the app store anyway.

huangc10 10y ago
It's smart of you to still use the App Store logo though. ;) I'll give you that.
- pg_is_a_butt 10y ago
  smart to use the snapchat logo as well. that way when apple sues, you can argue that you steal all your logos. you're all idiots.
- ThomPete 10y ago
  Interesting never thought about it like that. To me the icon indicating it's app store is this: https://developer.apple.com/app-store/marketing/guidelines/#downloadOnAppstore https://developer.apple.com/app-store/marketing/guidelines/#... But now you actually got me wondering if I should change it.
  - huangc10 10y ago
    Nah man, you got a nice looking button there. I'd stick with it unless you get a warning from Apple. Keep up the good work!
  - eridius 10y ago
    You probably should. Your usage of the App Store logo is likely in contradiction with Apple's rules, and since it's their IP, they get to dictate how it's used.
    - eridius 10y ago
      People seem to be downvoting me. Was my comment incorrect? If so, I'd love to know.
      - olig15 10y ago
        The logo he's using is not the AppStore logo. It's the logo for a generic app with no custom icon on macOS. That said, apple still own that logo, and might have an issue with it.
        eridius 10y ago
        It's literally the app store logo minus the circle. But you're right, the same icon is also used as part of the generic app placeholder icon. In either case, it does still belong to Apple. Edit: In fact, thinking about it some more, it's very clearly much closer to the App Store logo than anything else. It's literally the white silhouette design from the logo (as opposed to the colored non-sillhouete version from generic app icons), placed on a blue button that's similar to the app store logo's blue background.
        ThomPete 10y ago
        The app store button is the one with the app icon and saying available in the app store. The folder on my mac uses that icon for Applications.
  - dantiberian 10y ago
    Yeah, that's not the app store icon, it's the generic Apple icon for an application. I would leave it, it indicates a Mac app, but not a MAS app.
    - wingerlang 10y ago
      I think when coupled like this, "[logo] buy" it gives the impression of "something apple". Personally I thought that it would either open the app store, or that is was something related to Apple pay (although that one needs "[logo] Pay"). It felt a bit misleading.
      - ThomPete 10y ago
        I think you are talking about the top right not the button?
        wingerlang 10y ago
        Oh, yeah that's right.
  - lukeholder 10y ago
    That icon means 'app' not app store.
charlesdm 10y ago
App review takes a day now. Was it really that much of a hassle to you?
- ThomPete 10y ago
  It often took a week and yes it was a hassle also because of all the restrictions they put on what you are allowed to do. I know they have improved a little but I frankly don't need them as the Mac appstore market is nothing like the iOS appstore market. There is no benefit really.
newscracker 10y ago
As a cheapskate app buyer (a learned behavior from different app stores), I noticed that you had this priced at $4.99 while it was on the Mac App Store but have it at $9.99 on your own store now. That made me rethink if I really need this app because it "seems expensive" with this information in the background. This is just a buyer psychology observation, and not intended to devalue your app or your efforts in any way.
- ThomPete 10y ago
  Pricing is a tricky thing. Start to high and go lower and people get mad for being tricked into buying the expensive version when a cheaper one comes out. I made that mistake with my first product and promised never to do that again. I was also pricing it on my own website at $4.99 back then. I realized that the value I was creating was more than $4.99 and I haven't seen a drop in revenue based on that. So you have to find the sweet spot in order to afford keep developing it.

huangc10 10y ago

It's smart of you to still use the App Store logo though. ;) I'll give you that.

pg_is_a_butt 10y ago
smart to use the snapchat logo as well. that way when apple sues, you can argue that you steal all your logos. you're all idiots.
ThomPete 10y ago
Interesting never thought about it like that. To me the icon indicating it's app store is this: https://developer.apple.com/app-store/marketing/guidelines/#downloadOnAppstore https://developer.apple.com/app-store/marketing/guidelines/#... But now you actually got me wondering if I should change it.
- huangc10 10y ago
  Nah man, you got a nice looking button there. I'd stick with it unless you get a warning from Apple. Keep up the good work!
- eridius 10y ago
  You probably should. Your usage of the App Store logo is likely in contradiction with Apple's rules, and since it's their IP, they get to dictate how it's used.
  - eridius 10y ago
    People seem to be downvoting me. Was my comment incorrect? If so, I'd love to know.
    - olig15 10y ago
      The logo he's using is not the AppStore logo. It's the logo for a generic app with no custom icon on macOS. That said, apple still own that logo, and might have an issue with it.
      - eridius 10y ago
        It's literally the app store logo minus the circle. But you're right, the same icon is also used as part of the generic app placeholder icon. In either case, it does still belong to Apple. Edit: In fact, thinking about it some more, it's very clearly much closer to the App Store logo than anything else. It's literally the white silhouette design from the logo (as opposed to the colored non-sillhouete version from generic app icons), placed on a blue button that's similar to the app store logo's blue background.
        ThomPete 10y ago
        The app store button is the one with the app icon and saying available in the app store. The folder on my mac uses that icon for Applications.
- dantiberian 10y ago
  Yeah, that's not the app store icon, it's the generic Apple icon for an application. I would leave it, it indicates a Mac app, but not a MAS app.
  - wingerlang 10y ago
    I think when coupled like this, "[logo] buy" it gives the impression of "something apple". Personally I thought that it would either open the app store, or that is was something related to Apple pay (although that one needs "[logo] Pay"). It felt a bit misleading.
    - ThomPete 10y ago
      I think you are talking about the top right not the button?
      - wingerlang 10y ago
        Oh, yeah that's right.
- lukeholder 10y ago
  That icon means 'app' not app store.

charlesdm 10y ago

App review takes a day now. Was it really that much of a hassle to you?

ThomPete 10y ago
It often took a week and yes it was a hassle also because of all the restrictions they put on what you are allowed to do. I know they have improved a little but I frankly don't need them as the Mac appstore market is nothing like the iOS appstore market. There is no benefit really.

newscracker 10y ago

As a cheapskate app buyer (a learned behavior from different app stores), I noticed that you had this priced at $4.99 while it was on the Mac App Store but have it at $9.99 on your own store now. That made me rethink if I really need this app because it "seems expensive" with this information in the background. This is just a buyer psychology observation, and not intended to devalue your app or your efforts in any way.

ThomPete 10y ago
Pricing is a tricky thing. Start to high and go lower and people get mad for being tricked into buying the expensive version when a cheaper one comes out. I made that mistake with my first product and promised never to do that again. I was also pricing it on my own website at $4.99 back then. I realized that the value I was creating was more than $4.99 and I haven't seen a drop in revenue based on that. So you have to find the sweet spot in order to afford keep developing it.