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I got a group of about 30 non-technies using Signal, not because they knew what what perfect forward secrecy is, but because they grew vaguely suspicious of the
by confounded 10y ago
I got a group of about 30 non-technies using Signal, not because they knew what what perfect forward secrecy is, but because they grew vaguely suspicious of the motivations of governments and Facebook, and people/Google-results they trusted were positive.
The details don't matter to ordinary people, but our approval matters much more than you think. I have very high hopes for Matrix.org.
- newscracker 10y agoI think your group of people would be highly disappointed whenever each person moves to a new device and finds that they have essentially "lost" all old messages and have to re-join groups afresh. > The details don't matter to ordinary people, but our approval matters much more than you think. I have very high hopes for Matrix.org. I agree on this part completely, and I try to introduce better tools to others too. But not having messages restored on a new device (even when a user backs up and restores all data) and not providing a way for that when changing devices is unacceptable for me. At this point I'm back to Telegram, which is a compromise, but provides a much better experience as far as usability and meeting the expectations of non-tech users go.
- Arathorn 10y agomatrix e2e is still beta, and we just haven't implemented e2e session sharing yet. you can now export/import keys when migrating between devices as a workaround but proper sharing is coming soon.
- newscracker 10y agoI had a brief look at Matrix recently, and I'm really looking forward to it becoming mature. A decentralized solution with emphasis on security and privacy is what I've been praying for not just for myself, but for the sake of all humans!
- confounded 10y agoYou're right, losing messages is a bad experience for most people.