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>> Phones have eaten the DL's intended market Dunno about that, DL's were targeted for enthusiasts. Basically Sony RX100 buyers. >> if there was a mirrorless

>> Phones have eaten the DL's intended market Dunno about that, DL's were targeted for enthusiasts. Basically Sony RX100 buyers. >> if there was a mirrorless Nikon camera that could take advantage of decades of F-Mount lenses There is a mirrorless Nikon camera that can take advantage of decades of F-Mount lenses. It's called the Nikon 1 series.

petepete 10y ago
> There is a mirrorless Nikon camera that can take advantage of decades of F-Mount lenses. It's called the Nikon 1 series. Ah, the all but dead Nikon 1 with a ~£200 adaptor.
- slantyyz 10y ago
  It may be all but dead and a mockery to some purists, but the platform is still a pretty good one. Even now, it's still the mirrorless system that has AF tracking that comes closest to an SLR in terms of performance (if you take Thom Hogan at his word). They got a lot of stuff wrong in the early iterations (price, UI, handling), but the last iteration, the J5 was pretty darned good (basically an RX100MK3 with interchangeable lenses). I switched to the 1 series a few years ago from an APS dslr because I just wanted smaller gear, and I've been totally happy with absolutely no regrets. When I go on vacation, I bring two bodies and three lenses and they take up about as much room as one APS-C DSLR with a superzoom. Why two bodies? So I don't have to bother switching lenses like I had to when I had an SLR. I get that the platform isn't for everyone and I wouldn't recommend it to many people, but it's far from being the bad system that a lot of people make it out to be.
  - petepete 10y ago
    Ah, the only Nikon 1 series I've tried was the S1, I was quite impressed. Tiny, light, great pictures in good light. I can totally see why people like them; precisely the reason that people are now flocking to Fuji and Sony's systems. I have many Nikon lenses, if I could use them with a mirrorless body (Dx or Fx), I'd buy it in an instant. I'd probably take it and my 35mm f1.8 with me everywhere.
    - slantyyz 10y ago
      >> Tiny, light, great pictures in good light. Now that the J5 is basically using the Sony RX100MK3 sensor (not exactly but very close), you can add "bad light" to the equation. >> I have many Nikon lenses, if I could use them with a mirrorless body (Dx or Fx), I'd buy it in an instant. You can use them adapted on a Sony A7. I am pretty sure you can get AF with Canon lenses (not the fastest, but not horrible), but I'm not 100% sure if they've done the F-mount yet.
- okaramian 10y ago
  Yeah, it's too bad. I wish the Nikon 1 was a better camera (I have a couple of nice lenses for my Nikon DSLR). I ended up getting a Fuji X-T1 a couple months ago (discounted since the X-T2 is out). I need to get new glass but the lenses I've gotten are fantastic and it's fun as hell to shoot with. I'd still consider buying a mirrorless Nikon at some point, but they need to step up their game a bit.
lb1lf 10y ago
The Nikon 1 uses a small sensor - the crop factor would be somewhere close to three if you were to use F glass on it. Good for telephoto. Wide angle? Not as much. I would be surprised if the Nikon 1 tempted many who have invested in lots of F glass. Now, if Nikon were to release a mirrorless full-format camera with excellent AF and low-light performance, I believe you'd find a lot of people asking them to shut up and take their money.
- slantyyz 10y ago
  >> I would be surprised if the Nikon 1 tempted many who have invested in lots of F glass. It attracted a lot of birders. The 2.7 crop factor went a long way for them. To get equivalently fast glass with long focal lengths on the larger sensor cameras would have cost tens of thousands of dollars and translated into several pounds of added gear weight.

petepete 10y ago

> There is a mirrorless Nikon camera that can take advantage of decades of F-Mount lenses. It's called the Nikon 1 series. Ah, the all but dead Nikon 1 with a ~£200 adaptor.

slantyyz 10y ago
It may be all but dead and a mockery to some purists, but the platform is still a pretty good one. Even now, it's still the mirrorless system that has AF tracking that comes closest to an SLR in terms of performance (if you take Thom Hogan at his word). They got a lot of stuff wrong in the early iterations (price, UI, handling), but the last iteration, the J5 was pretty darned good (basically an RX100MK3 with interchangeable lenses). I switched to the 1 series a few years ago from an APS dslr because I just wanted smaller gear, and I've been totally happy with absolutely no regrets. When I go on vacation, I bring two bodies and three lenses and they take up about as much room as one APS-C DSLR with a superzoom. Why two bodies? So I don't have to bother switching lenses like I had to when I had an SLR. I get that the platform isn't for everyone and I wouldn't recommend it to many people, but it's far from being the bad system that a lot of people make it out to be.
- petepete 10y ago
  Ah, the only Nikon 1 series I've tried was the S1, I was quite impressed. Tiny, light, great pictures in good light. I can totally see why people like them; precisely the reason that people are now flocking to Fuji and Sony's systems. I have many Nikon lenses, if I could use them with a mirrorless body (Dx or Fx), I'd buy it in an instant. I'd probably take it and my 35mm f1.8 with me everywhere.
  - slantyyz 10y ago
    >> Tiny, light, great pictures in good light. Now that the J5 is basically using the Sony RX100MK3 sensor (not exactly but very close), you can add "bad light" to the equation. >> I have many Nikon lenses, if I could use them with a mirrorless body (Dx or Fx), I'd buy it in an instant. You can use them adapted on a Sony A7. I am pretty sure you can get AF with Canon lenses (not the fastest, but not horrible), but I'm not 100% sure if they've done the F-mount yet.
okaramian 10y ago
Yeah, it's too bad. I wish the Nikon 1 was a better camera (I have a couple of nice lenses for my Nikon DSLR). I ended up getting a Fuji X-T1 a couple months ago (discounted since the X-T2 is out). I need to get new glass but the lenses I've gotten are fantastic and it's fun as hell to shoot with. I'd still consider buying a mirrorless Nikon at some point, but they need to step up their game a bit.

lb1lf 10y ago

The Nikon 1 uses a small sensor - the crop factor would be somewhere close to three if you were to use F glass on it. Good for telephoto. Wide angle? Not as much. I would be surprised if the Nikon 1 tempted many who have invested in lots of F glass. Now, if Nikon were to release a mirrorless full-format camera with excellent AF and low-light performance, I believe you'd find a lot of people asking them to shut up and take their money.

slantyyz 10y ago
>> I would be surprised if the Nikon 1 tempted many who have invested in lots of F glass. It attracted a lot of birders. The 2.7 crop factor went a long way for them. To get equivalently fast glass with long focal lengths on the larger sensor cameras would have cost tens of thousands of dollars and translated into several pounds of added gear weight.