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If there weren't these rules about not killing pedestrians or ramming buildings I could make a robot car myself! Another small business smothered in the crib by

If there weren't these rules about not killing pedestrians or ramming buildings I could make a robot car myself! Another small business smothered in the crib by government overreach.

startupdiscuss 10y ago
This is the point I was making, although this is a more amusing way of making it. I didn't say they should not be relaxed, by the way. I do think at some point there will be a big public fight about what we are willing to accept. I have heard it said that even current self-driving tech is safer than humans. But I haven't looked at the stats myself.
- jessaustin 10y ago
  Sorry! To my embarrassment, your irony overpowered me.
Animats 10y ago
Right. California has liberal rules on autonomous vehicle testing on public roads. You have to get insurance and report accidents and disconnects. Only Uber whines about that, but Uber whines about everything. Deployment is something else. California's rules for autonomous vehicle deployment are out.[1] There's a third party testing requirement and a three-year transition period during which autonomous vehicles can only be leased, not sold outright, and drivers require an autonomous vehicle certification. That's about what Volvo is doing with their test in Sweden.[2] Nobody has technology good enough yet to turn loose on the general public. Google/Alphabet/Waymo seems to be getting close, but everybody else is at least two orders of magnitude worse on disconnects per mile. [1] https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/wcm/connect/dbcf0f21-4085-47a1-889f-3b8a64eaa1ff/AVRegulationsSummary.pdf?MOD=AJPERES https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/wcm/connect/dbcf0f21-4085-47a1... [2] http://blog.caranddriver.com/meet-the-first-real-family-slated-to-get-keys-to-volvos-self-driving-xc90/ http://blog.caranddriver.com/meet-the-first-real-family-slat...

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If there weren't these rules about not killing pedestrians or ramming buildings I could make a robot car myself! Another small business smothered in the crib by

by waisbrot 10y ago

If there weren't these rules about not killing pedestrians or ramming buildings I could make a robot car myself! Another small business smothered in the crib by government overreach.

startupdiscuss 10y ago
This is the point I was making, although this is a more amusing way of making it. I didn't say they should not be relaxed, by the way. I do think at some point there will be a big public fight about what we are willing to accept. I have heard it said that even current self-driving tech is safer than humans. But I haven't looked at the stats myself.
- jessaustin 10y ago
  Sorry! To my embarrassment, your irony overpowered me.
Animats 10y ago
Right. California has liberal rules on autonomous vehicle testing on public roads. You have to get insurance and report accidents and disconnects. Only Uber whines about that, but Uber whines about everything. Deployment is something else. California's rules for autonomous vehicle deployment are out.[1] There's a third party testing requirement and a three-year transition period during which autonomous vehicles can only be leased, not sold outright, and drivers require an autonomous vehicle certification. That's about what Volvo is doing with their test in Sweden.[2] Nobody has technology good enough yet to turn loose on the general public. Google/Alphabet/Waymo seems to be getting close, but everybody else is at least two orders of magnitude worse on disconnects per mile. [1] https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/wcm/connect/dbcf0f21-4085-47a1-889f-3b8a64eaa1ff/AVRegulationsSummary.pdf?MOD=AJPERES https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/wcm/connect/dbcf0f21-4085-47a1... [2] http://blog.caranddriver.com/meet-the-first-real-family-slated-to-get-keys-to-volvos-self-driving-xc90/ http://blog.caranddriver.com/meet-the-first-real-family-slat...