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a lot of this stuff just devolves into sex scandals. fame and fortune and all that.

by beachstartup 10y ago

dominotw 10y ago
what relevance does his personal life have to do with anything?
- hunterjrj 10y ago
  Can you completely disentangle an individual's spiritual/religious/philosophical teachings from their personal lives? For example, would you assign the same credibility to the teachings delivered by a Catholic priest who has been proven to have molested children?
  - fusiongyro 10y ago
    Not completely, but somewhat, yes. Gandhi is a terrible example of how to be a husband, but he nevertheless managed to teach nonviolent protest and help liberate a country. MLK also did some philandering, but it doesn't detract from what he did for civil rights. It's easy to be dismissive of a cardboard priest, but if you had an actual human in mind, it would become less black and white. If you need your spiritual, religious, philosophical leader to be pure as the driven snow, you're going to get some pretty inhuman advice from your leader. Most of us have faults and things we struggle with. If someone doesn't, how do they relate, how do they help?
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  - brangalina4eva 10y ago
    Depends what the teachings are about.
  - cr0sh 10y ago
    re: Catholic priest vs. others and credibility, this SMBC comic is appropriate: http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20110503.gif http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20110503.gif In other words, it's one thing when someone is claiming to speak on behalf of a deity; it's another otherwise. To be hypocritical in such a context reflects much more harshly on the priest than it does on, say, the civil rights activist.
    - fusiongyro 10y ago
      True, but that only makes the argument weaker for Krishnamurti, who really refused the role of teacher quite strongly himself and certainly didn't want anyone believing in a supernatural savior instead.
- beachstartup 10y ago
  i'm not the person who posted the original message.

a lot of this stuff just devolves into sex scandals. fame and fortune and all that.

dominotw 10y ago

what relevance does his personal life have to do with anything?

hunterjrj 10y ago
Can you completely disentangle an individual's spiritual/religious/philosophical teachings from their personal lives? For example, would you assign the same credibility to the teachings delivered by a Catholic priest who has been proven to have molested children?
- fusiongyro 10y ago
  Not completely, but somewhat, yes. Gandhi is a terrible example of how to be a husband, but he nevertheless managed to teach nonviolent protest and help liberate a country. MLK also did some philandering, but it doesn't detract from what he did for civil rights. It's easy to be dismissive of a cardboard priest, but if you had an actual human in mind, it would become less black and white. If you need your spiritual, religious, philosophical leader to be pure as the driven snow, you're going to get some pretty inhuman advice from your leader. Most of us have faults and things we struggle with. If someone doesn't, how do they relate, how do they help?
- deleted 10y ago
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- brangalina4eva 10y ago
  Depends what the teachings are about.
- cr0sh 10y ago
  re: Catholic priest vs. others and credibility, this SMBC comic is appropriate: http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20110503.gif http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20110503.gif In other words, it's one thing when someone is claiming to speak on behalf of a deity; it's another otherwise. To be hypocritical in such a context reflects much more harshly on the priest than it does on, say, the civil rights activist.
  - fusiongyro 10y ago
    True, but that only makes the argument weaker for Krishnamurti, who really refused the role of teacher quite strongly himself and certainly didn't want anyone believing in a supernatural savior instead.
beachstartup 10y ago
i'm not the person who posted the original message.