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First off, I think Russia is a corrupt kleptocracy. But think about it for just one second. Crimea contains Russia's _only_ warm water port. For the whole coun

First off, I think Russia is a corrupt kleptocracy. But think about it for just one second. Crimea contains Russia's _only_ warm water port. For the whole country. A country that spans two continents. Look back on how America treated 'Panama'. America has dozens of warm water ports on both oceans, and it overthrew countries a thousand miles away to secure shipping convenience. It's inconceivable how long Russia has allowed itself to go without a warm water port. And in the scale of international lawlessness, the Russian invasion of Crimea is totally justifiable 'bad behavior'. And this isn't even going into the peninsula's tumultuous past. http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregsatell/2014/03/01/5-things-you-should-know-about-putins-incursion-into-crimea/#236939a01143 http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregsatell/2014/03/01/5-things-y...

AnimalMuppet 10y ago
> Look back on how America treated 'Panama'. Bad, but not relevant. Our misdeeds do not make Russia's misdeeds any better. > It's inconceivable how long Russia has allowed itself to go without a warm water port Allowed? You sound like countries have a divine right to warm-water ports, which Russia graciously waived for an extended period. And what did Russia get? A warm-water port to which they do not have land access. Well, you know what's next. They're going to decide they have a divine right to land access to that port. > And in the scale of international lawlessness, the Russian invasion of Crimea is totally justifiable 'bad behavior'. It's bad (immoral/illegal) behavior. It's also behavior that, yes, large nations (including our own) have "justified" in the past. That doesn't make it right; it only makes it somewhat unsurprising.
PerfectDlite 10y ago
> Crimea contains Russia's _only_ warm water port. Stop repeating Russian propaganda. Before Crimea Russia already had warm water port - Novorossiysk.

AnimalMuppet 10y ago

> Look back on how America treated 'Panama'. Bad, but not relevant. Our misdeeds do not make Russia's misdeeds any better. > It's inconceivable how long Russia has allowed itself to go without a warm water port Allowed? You sound like countries have a divine right to warm-water ports, which Russia graciously waived for an extended period. And what did Russia get? A warm-water port to which they do not have land access. Well, you know what's next. They're going to decide they have a divine right to land access to that port. > And in the scale of international lawlessness, the Russian invasion of Crimea is totally justifiable 'bad behavior'. It's bad (immoral/illegal) behavior. It's also behavior that, yes, large nations (including our own) have "justified" in the past. That doesn't make it right; it only makes it somewhat unsurprising.

PerfectDlite 10y ago

> Crimea contains Russia's _only_ warm water port. Stop repeating Russian propaganda. Before Crimea Russia already had warm water port - Novorossiysk.