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> The problems are in the longer term with elevated cholesterol... From your link: > These differences were not significant at 24 months. ----------- > and

by croon 10y ago

> The problems are in the longer term with elevated cholesterol... From your link: > These differences were not significant at 24 months. ----------- > and increasing insulin resistance. I'm going to need to insist on sources on this.

Xdafjgneoiwe 10y ago
Insulin resistance: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20427477 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20427477 As for the cholesterol, the study I linked was probably not a very good example - sorry. Saturated fat does raise cholesterol however - so unless you are on a vegan low carb diet, you will see it rise. (IF you keep your weight steady, weight loss almost always lowers cholesterol)
- croon 10y ago
  Counter source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4264021/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4264021/
  - Xdafjgneoiwe 10y ago
    Losing weight, especially fat does wonders for insulin sensitivity, though. The low carb group lost 6.2 kg of fat. That is a lot. I do wonder what happens if you look at insulin sensitivity when weight and fat mass remains mostly neutral. I do not know if there are studies done on that (in humans). I will have a look around.
    - croon 10y ago
      > Losing weight, especially fat does wonders for insulin sensitivity, though. Agreed. > The low carb group lost 6.2 kg of fat. That is a lot. I do wonder what happens if you look at insulin sensitivity when weight and fat mass remains mostly neutral. I do not know if there are studies done on that (in humans). I will have a look around. Sure, but if it's purely weight dependant, then high fat isn't a factor. And if it's not, why did it increase sensitivity? I'm not trying to say that fat is the one solution to everything, but I'm definitely saying it's not the one cause for everything. I can cite multiple studies showing the various detriments of carbs, and likewise the pitfalls of fat, but when the circumstances are key, then isn't that simply the answer? Don't be afraid of butter and eggs, don't be afraid of rice and carrots. Eat everything in moderation. Maybe stay away from sugar and deep fried treats?

by croon 10y ago

Xdafjgneoiwe 10y ago

Insulin resistance: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20427477 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20427477 As for the cholesterol, the study I linked was probably not a very good example - sorry. Saturated fat does raise cholesterol however - so unless you are on a vegan low carb diet, you will see it rise. (IF you keep your weight steady, weight loss almost always lowers cholesterol)

croon 10y ago
Counter source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4264021/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4264021/
- Xdafjgneoiwe 10y ago
  Losing weight, especially fat does wonders for insulin sensitivity, though. The low carb group lost 6.2 kg of fat. That is a lot. I do wonder what happens if you look at insulin sensitivity when weight and fat mass remains mostly neutral. I do not know if there are studies done on that (in humans). I will have a look around.
  - croon 10y ago
    > Losing weight, especially fat does wonders for insulin sensitivity, though. Agreed. > The low carb group lost 6.2 kg of fat. That is a lot. I do wonder what happens if you look at insulin sensitivity when weight and fat mass remains mostly neutral. I do not know if there are studies done on that (in humans). I will have a look around. Sure, but if it's purely weight dependant, then high fat isn't a factor. And if it's not, why did it increase sensitivity? I'm not trying to say that fat is the one solution to everything, but I'm definitely saying it's not the one cause for everything. I can cite multiple studies showing the various detriments of carbs, and likewise the pitfalls of fat, but when the circumstances are key, then isn't that simply the answer? Don't be afraid of butter and eggs, don't be afraid of rice and carrots. Eat everything in moderation. Maybe stay away from sugar and deep fried treats?