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It would be nice if instead of wasting $20 billion on a wall we dont need to mexico we got actual public infastructure projects.

newman314 10y ago
Agreed. However, watching the tweets trying to make this political has been sickening. The number of people wishing to "send liberals to Oroville" is nothing short of mind boggling. What. The. Actual. F?!?
- Obi_Juan_Kenobi 10y ago
  Right!? I heard about this damage a few days ago and thought it was interesting, but now I find out there's this huge conspiracy scene around it. Stuff like 'the gov't is in CYA mode and trying to downplay risk' to 'this is a false-flag attack to undermine Trump'. It's just so weird that this seems to have people frothing at the mouth. How did so many collectively decide to adopt this narrative?
  - nosuchthing 10y ago
    If the bots and sockpuppet accounts on twitter are any indication of sockpuppetry among public internet forums than it's safe to assume there's a significant and non-trivial amount of postings coming from agenda pushing organizations.
  - pjc50 10y ago
    Oh, the frothing pre-dates Trump by a long way. It seems to be a self-sustaining mode in US politics, this deep paranoia about conspiracies.
  - mtnygard 10y ago
    The "false flag" stuff is just loony. But there is an element of CYA because previous rounds of funding allocation have apparently evaporated into the ether.
brotherAB 10y ago
The two aren't mutually exclusive. American voters wanted the wall, and we're going to get it, on time, and under budget. California has been bankrupting itself for at least a decade (sanctuary + welfare). No money to spend on infrastructure. Trump has been in office what, 2wks? He's already fulfilled more campaign promises than any president in recent memory. He promises to be a jobs president and improving our infrastructure is part of that plan. Let's have some perspective, mmmkay? Flashback to California Governor Jerry Brown, in Sacremento last month, suggesting the president could help with a dam: > Here’s what the president said in his inaugural address: “We will build new roads, and highways, and bridges, and airports, and tunnels, and railways all across our wonderful nation.” > And in this, we can all work together – here in Sacramento and also in Washington as well. We have roads, we have tunnels, we have railroads, and even a dam that the president could help us with. http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/01/24/jerry-brown-donald-trump-amen-brother-infrastructure/ http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/01/24/jerry-brown-d...
bluGill 10y ago
No, maintenance to existing infrastructure. This distinction is important. Most people think of new roads, bridges, dams, railroads when they think infrastructure. Politicians love to attach their names to such things so they get funded first. Often at the expense of keeping existing infrastructure. You see this all over, roads that people use in bad shape while new "roads to nowhere" are being built.

newman314 10y ago

Agreed. However, watching the tweets trying to make this political has been sickening. The number of people wishing to "send liberals to Oroville" is nothing short of mind boggling. What. The. Actual. F?!?

Obi_Juan_Kenobi 10y ago
Right!? I heard about this damage a few days ago and thought it was interesting, but now I find out there's this huge conspiracy scene around it. Stuff like 'the gov't is in CYA mode and trying to downplay risk' to 'this is a false-flag attack to undermine Trump'. It's just so weird that this seems to have people frothing at the mouth. How did so many collectively decide to adopt this narrative?
- nosuchthing 10y ago
  If the bots and sockpuppet accounts on twitter are any indication of sockpuppetry among public internet forums than it's safe to assume there's a significant and non-trivial amount of postings coming from agenda pushing organizations.
- pjc50 10y ago
  Oh, the frothing pre-dates Trump by a long way. It seems to be a self-sustaining mode in US politics, this deep paranoia about conspiracies.
- mtnygard 10y ago
  The "false flag" stuff is just loony. But there is an element of CYA because previous rounds of funding allocation have apparently evaporated into the ether.

brotherAB 10y ago

The two aren't mutually exclusive. American voters wanted the wall, and we're going to get it, on time, and under budget. California has been bankrupting itself for at least a decade (sanctuary + welfare). No money to spend on infrastructure. Trump has been in office what, 2wks? He's already fulfilled more campaign promises than any president in recent memory. He promises to be a jobs president and improving our infrastructure is part of that plan. Let's have some perspective, mmmkay? Flashback to California Governor Jerry Brown, in Sacremento last month, suggesting the president could help with a dam: > Here’s what the president said in his inaugural address: “We will build new roads, and highways, and bridges, and airports, and tunnels, and railways all across our wonderful nation.” > And in this, we can all work together – here in Sacramento and also in Washington as well. We have roads, we have tunnels, we have railroads, and even a dam that the president could help us with. http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/01/24/jerry-brown-donald-trump-amen-brother-infrastructure/ http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/01/24/jerry-brown-d...

bluGill 10y ago

No, maintenance to existing infrastructure. This distinction is important. Most people think of new roads, bridges, dams, railroads when they think infrastructure. Politicians love to attach their names to such things so they get funded first. Often at the expense of keeping existing infrastructure. You see this all over, roads that people use in bad shape while new "roads to nowhere" are being built.