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Wine yo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_wine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_wine

by superbaconman 10y ago

milesrout 10y ago
80% of California's water is used by agriculture.
- WillPostForFood 10y ago
  This is false. I don't blame you because it is often repeated. But agriculture only accounts for about 40% of California's water use. In an average year, about 39% of California's water consumption, or 34.1 million acre-feet, is used for agricultural purposes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_in_California#Uses_of_water https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_in_California#Uses_of_wa...
  - doh 10y ago
    It's actually not false. If you read the article you posted, you will see that half of the water is used for environmental uses. That means is not used by humans, but "let go". So if you sum the rest, agriculture does use 80% of the water used by humans.
    - WillPostForFood 10y ago
      Directing water to a tree to grow almonds, and directing it to a stream to support the delta smelt are both human directed usages. You can't just count the usages you don't like to make the number look big.
      - doh 10y ago
        If you're looking at it this way, that every single stream is managed, then yes, you're right. I rather think that we develop only the water sources that make the most sense and leave the rest be. This way we could talk about the incredible amounts of gold that is diluted in oceans that we could harvest "anytime" [0]. It's around 21x more than humans mined in the whole history. [0] http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/gold.html http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/gold.html
  - joshfraser 10y ago
    Also from that link: "Solely relying on these statewide volumes is controversial because they don't consider the fact that most of the volume of water used for environmental purposes includes flows down Wild and Scenic Rivers in the North Coast where there is no practical way to recover it for either agricultural or urban use because it lacks many connections to the statewide water supply system."
djcapelis 10y ago
For the most part, that's a completely different part of the state.
- ghaff 10y ago
  By volume (though certainly not by quality), I assume the Central Valley is the largest producer. Warmer temperatures mean more production but often low quality stuff.
michaelvoz 10y ago
Not nearly the same area of the state...
- WillPostForFood 10y ago
  You think two buck chuck is made from grapes grown in ritzy Napa valley? Large majority of California wine comes from grapes grown in the central valley. * The Central Valley is California's largest wine region stretching for 300 miles (480 km) from the Sacramento Valley south to the San Joaquin Valley. This one region produces nearly 75% of all California wine grapes and includes many of California's bulk, box and jug wine producers like Gallo, Franzia and Bronco Wine Company.* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_wine#Wine_regions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_wine#Wine_regions

Wine yo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_wine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_wine

milesrout 10y ago

80% of California's water is used by agriculture.

WillPostForFood 10y ago
This is false. I don't blame you because it is often repeated. But agriculture only accounts for about 40% of California's water use. In an average year, about 39% of California's water consumption, or 34.1 million acre-feet, is used for agricultural purposes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_in_California#Uses_of_water https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_in_California#Uses_of_wa...
- doh 10y ago
  It's actually not false. If you read the article you posted, you will see that half of the water is used for environmental uses. That means is not used by humans, but "let go". So if you sum the rest, agriculture does use 80% of the water used by humans.
  - WillPostForFood 10y ago
    Directing water to a tree to grow almonds, and directing it to a stream to support the delta smelt are both human directed usages. You can't just count the usages you don't like to make the number look big.
    - doh 10y ago
      If you're looking at it this way, that every single stream is managed, then yes, you're right. I rather think that we develop only the water sources that make the most sense and leave the rest be. This way we could talk about the incredible amounts of gold that is diluted in oceans that we could harvest "anytime" [0]. It's around 21x more than humans mined in the whole history. [0] http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/gold.html http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/gold.html
- joshfraser 10y ago
  Also from that link: "Solely relying on these statewide volumes is controversial because they don't consider the fact that most of the volume of water used for environmental purposes includes flows down Wild and Scenic Rivers in the North Coast where there is no practical way to recover it for either agricultural or urban use because it lacks many connections to the statewide water supply system."

djcapelis 10y ago

For the most part, that's a completely different part of the state.

ghaff 10y ago
By volume (though certainly not by quality), I assume the Central Valley is the largest producer. Warmer temperatures mean more production but often low quality stuff.

michaelvoz 10y ago

Not nearly the same area of the state...

WillPostForFood 10y ago
You think two buck chuck is made from grapes grown in ritzy Napa valley? Large majority of California wine comes from grapes grown in the central valley. * The Central Valley is California's largest wine region stretching for 300 miles (480 km) from the Sacramento Valley south to the San Joaquin Valley. This one region produces nearly 75% of all California wine grapes and includes many of California's bulk, box and jug wine producers like Gallo, Franzia and Bronco Wine Company.* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_wine#Wine_regions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_wine#Wine_regions