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I must have missed some things but they not only switched repository formats they moved the central to github [1]. All opensource projects on github is centrali

by agentgt 10y ago

I must have missed some things but they not only switched repository formats they moved the central to github [1]. All opensource projects on github is centralization in my book creates unfair leverage that github has and will have. For people to work on Python they now have to share information with github which they may not want (they have to create an account and are probably tracked). 1: https://docs.python.org/devguide/setup.html https://docs.python.org/devguide/setup.html

tracker1 10y ago
Two things, that's also an advantage... and the vast majority of programmers I know have a github account anyway. Github has made it very easy to access/port everything in and out if you choose to do so. Git itself is decentralized. Some of github tools are centralized, but that has both advantages and disadvantages, and I and a lot of others feel the advantages outweight the latter.
- agentgt 10y ago
  Like I said I don't argue with merits of github greatly widening the audience but I like said in other sibling threads github is more than just the source control itself: it is bugs, content, workflow, etc. I guess I'm just becoming more Stallman in my age but I don't like my development life turning into Facebook. I can't even communicate with a large portion of family and friend with out resorting to using FB. A platform without doubt tracks the hell out of you. And you could argue the web is decentralized (aka your comment Git itself is decentralized) so Facebook is not that bad but is it? Does that really matter?
  - tracker1 10y ago
    I can respect that... however, sometimes it's not worth fighting... you can export your bugs, content, etc from github, and import into self-hosted gitlab, or other options if so desired. Then you lose the community aspect, but it's not exactly hindered. I just don't see GH turning into SourceForge. I know it can happen, doesn't mean it will, and if they (GH) ever head down that path, people will exodus.
    - agentgt 10y ago
      GitHub is far more intrusive than SourceForge (don't get me wrong on quality though... SF is a piece of crap). Remember GitHub has a lot of people's credit cards! Even Facebook doesn't have that. GitHub could easily some day sell user information (if they are not already). The could sell it to recruiting companies (like my own company) or they could sell it even to ecommerce companies like Amazon. Comparing GH to SF is not really even remotely useful because things have changed so much (in terms of technology, biz models, users ...etc ).

by agentgt 10y ago

tracker1 10y ago

Two things, that's also an advantage... and the vast majority of programmers I know have a github account anyway. Github has made it very easy to access/port everything in and out if you choose to do so. Git itself is decentralized. Some of github tools are centralized, but that has both advantages and disadvantages, and I and a lot of others feel the advantages outweight the latter.

agentgt 10y ago
Like I said I don't argue with merits of github greatly widening the audience but I like said in other sibling threads github is more than just the source control itself: it is bugs, content, workflow, etc. I guess I'm just becoming more Stallman in my age but I don't like my development life turning into Facebook. I can't even communicate with a large portion of family and friend with out resorting to using FB. A platform without doubt tracks the hell out of you. And you could argue the web is decentralized (aka your comment Git itself is decentralized) so Facebook is not that bad but is it? Does that really matter?
- tracker1 10y ago
  I can respect that... however, sometimes it's not worth fighting... you can export your bugs, content, etc from github, and import into self-hosted gitlab, or other options if so desired. Then you lose the community aspect, but it's not exactly hindered. I just don't see GH turning into SourceForge. I know it can happen, doesn't mean it will, and if they (GH) ever head down that path, people will exodus.
  - agentgt 10y ago
    GitHub is far more intrusive than SourceForge (don't get me wrong on quality though... SF is a piece of crap). Remember GitHub has a lot of people's credit cards! Even Facebook doesn't have that. GitHub could easily some day sell user information (if they are not already). The could sell it to recruiting companies (like my own company) or they could sell it even to ecommerce companies like Amazon. Comparing GH to SF is not really even remotely useful because things have changed so much (in terms of technology, biz models, users ...etc ).