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How AirBnB's Data Hid the Facts in NYC [pdf]
- jijji 10y agoand this is interesting because?
- CodeWriter23 10y agoThe facts reveal that AirBNB is actively covering up that they are permitting hosts to violate New York Law by listing multiple dwellings on the platform.
- rco8786 10y agoHmm. Is that their responsibility to enforce? Not really familiar with the details here, but it seems akin to holding Craigslist responsible for someone selling a stolen bike.
- aarongolliver 10y agoMore akin to Craigslist deleting a bunch of stolen bike posts right before snapshotting the DB, during an investigation of illegal sales on Craigslist. ~~~(And only deleting them in the city where the investigation is happening)~~~
- hn9780470248775 10y agoDid that happen?
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- aarongolliver 10y agoActually I miss read the link. The parenthetical is inaccurate, but the rest is exactly what the article alleges.
- swsieber 10y agoI would say you have a bad analogy - Craigslist doesn't really have a good way of knowing if somebody is selling something stolen. AirBNB on the other hand is covering evidence of their customers breaking the law, on purpose.
- jgalt212 10y agoso isn't that ipso facto aid and abetting? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiding_and_abetting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiding_and_abetting
- forrestthewoods 10y agoIf states don't have to enforce federal immigration law then do businesses have to enforce state restrictions? (Probably yes. If that's what the laws say. I have no idea.)
- CodeWriter23 10y agoThey collect the SSN of hosts for the federally-mandated 1099K disclosures, so they can use that or a hash of that as a unique identifier and prevent listing multiple dwellings in localities that have such laws.
- CodeWriter23 10y agoNo. It is their responsibility to accurately disclose.
- zump 10y agoELI5 for someone not privy to this debate?
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- johnzeringue 10y agoHousing in NYC is expensive. Zoning laws exist in part to control housing costs. Airbnb is seen as a way to circumvent these laws by facilitating short-term listings in otherwise long-term residential areas. Airbnb released a detailed snapshot of its NYC listings in order to minimize such concerns and prevent restrictions on its business. However, individuals who had been consistently collecting similar data from Airbnb's website noticed that the snapshot was misleading. Airbnb had instituted a crackdown on "bad" listings immediately prior to the snapshot, but allowed them to return right after.
- zump 10y agoDisgraceful behavior, but would no doubt be condoned here as excellent hustle.
- grzm 10y agoIf you have something substantive to say on the topic, including constructive criticism, please do share. If it's just gratuitous negativity disparaging the community you choose to be a part of, please refrain.
- CodeWriter23 10y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13628737 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13628737
- JumpCrisscross 10y agoCould this result in criminal penalties for the executives who signed off on the data?
- johnzeringue 10y agoIt's definitely seedy, but it doesn't sound like it's illegal. Misrepresenting data is one thing, but circulating misleading data is hard to define and punish.
- wheelerwj 10y agolieing and destroying evidence if there is a warrant or subpoena is a definitive crime.
- jgalt212 10y agoaiding and abetting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiding_and_abetting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiding_and_abetting
- dexterdog 10y agoHopefully it will lead to the changing of these laws that don't let people do otherwise lawful things with their property.
- zaius 10y agoThis needs a [2016] in the title
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