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Damnit...I hate to look like I'm defending Trump, but he was also the only Republican to let an open homosexual speak on the convention stage (Thiel). He's sel

Damnit...I hate to look like I'm defending Trump, but he was also the only Republican to let an open homosexual speak on the convention stage (Thiel). He's self-serving and contradictory (see Pence), but it's not nearly as open and shut as suggested. Do you have any specific reasons he's homophobic?

battlebot 10y ago
People see "Trump" and automatically downvote you on here. It's insane! If anyone would do something positive for our indvidual privacy it would be Trump because here's the thing: Unlike other politicians, Trump is a man who would listen to a compelling argument. He's a political neophyte, but I truly believe he is trying to act in the best interest of the people. It's really the media's fault that his populism is not coming through--all the media has done is divide us. There are bright people in the Trump Administration and they are doing their best to fix America. He will enforce the laws and work to repeal the ones that are stupid if we ask him to.
shitgoose 10y ago
who needs a reason, when you have faith.
KirinDave 10y ago
> Do you have any specific reasons he's homophobic? Yes, actually. He's said very homophobic things and done some very transphobic things. 1. He's on record saying "marriage is between a man and a woman." 2. He's on record saying he supports Pence's "FADA" which makes it legal to discriminate against LGBT people in any way imaginable (including denying social services such as basic policing or health care services) if a person claims a sincere belief that their religion condones such discrimination. You can read more of it here, this draft is well-circulated: https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/2802 https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/2802 (fun fact, this law also makes it illegal for the States or any Corporation to have any rules that might curtial these actions, so as a business owner a manager could fire a gay person and you couldn't punish them for it). And then this week, we saw Trump's admin immediately pull back protections put in place to keep trans children safe and provide them life-saving medical interventions. The White House hasn't been this overtly homophobic since Reagan's pressec and the press pit laughed at gay men dying of AIDS. I'm not sure why the guy waves a rainbow flag once and suddenly we're all supposed to ignore his policy promises. He said he'd sign FADA and unless something dramatic changes, he's going to get the opportunity to. Claims of an anti-LGBT stance and homophobia seem fairly well founded at this point.

battlebot 10y ago

People see "Trump" and automatically downvote you on here. It's insane! If anyone would do something positive for our indvidual privacy it would be Trump because here's the thing: Unlike other politicians, Trump is a man who would listen to a compelling argument. He's a political neophyte, but I truly believe he is trying to act in the best interest of the people. It's really the media's fault that his populism is not coming through--all the media has done is divide us. There are bright people in the Trump Administration and they are doing their best to fix America. He will enforce the laws and work to repeal the ones that are stupid if we ask him to.

shitgoose 10y ago

who needs a reason, when you have faith.

KirinDave 10y ago

> Do you have any specific reasons he's homophobic? Yes, actually. He's said very homophobic things and done some very transphobic things. 1. He's on record saying "marriage is between a man and a woman." 2. He's on record saying he supports Pence's "FADA" which makes it legal to discriminate against LGBT people in any way imaginable (including denying social services such as basic policing or health care services) if a person claims a sincere belief that their religion condones such discrimination. You can read more of it here, this draft is well-circulated: https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/2802 https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/2802 (fun fact, this law also makes it illegal for the States or any Corporation to have any rules that might curtial these actions, so as a business owner a manager could fire a gay person and you couldn't punish them for it). And then this week, we saw Trump's admin immediately pull back protections put in place to keep trans children safe and provide them life-saving medical interventions. The White House hasn't been this overtly homophobic since Reagan's pressec and the press pit laughed at gay men dying of AIDS. I'm not sure why the guy waves a rainbow flag once and suddenly we're all supposed to ignore his policy promises. He said he'd sign FADA and unless something dramatic changes, he's going to get the opportunity to. Claims of an anti-LGBT stance and homophobia seem fairly well founded at this point.