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I'm a Zsh user who tried xon.sh for 3 months now and reverted to Zsh just a few days ago. Performance. I easily have ~20 shell instances running (under tmux), a

by yoavm 10y ago

I'm a Zsh user who tried xon.sh for 3 months now and reverted to Zsh just a few days ago. Performance. I easily have ~20 shell instances running (under tmux), and having each one of them run python simply slowed down my computer. I got back to Zsh and while I miss some of xon.sh features (most notable one is calculating things just by typing "1+1"), everything feels so much snappier now.

StreakyCobra 10y ago
Except for the performance problem (I'll probably not be concerned with my workflow), what are the pros/cons of xonsh for you? Some of my concerns are: - Does having direct access to Python really make your work in command line faster/easier? - Is there some paradigms that are more difficult to express in xonsh (redirect, pipes, …) - Did you happen to encounter bugs, or made mistakes without intent to do it (like overwriting/removing files, …) ? In other words, without the performance problem, would you continue to use xonsh and recommend it?
- BeetleB 10y ago
  >Does having direct access to Python really make your work in command line faster/easier? Easier for me to write custom commands/aliases. I'm sure I could come up with creative uses for it - just haven't taken the time to do so. Also, I'm not a super sed/awk user, so that's an example where knowing Python helps. >Is there some paradigms that are more difficult to express in xonsh (redirect, pipes, …) Haven't run across any. I think a few may be mentioned in the docs, though. >Did you happen to encounter bugs, or made mistakes without intent to do it (like overwriting/removing files, …) ? Bugs: Yes - only applicable for Windows. In Windows, environment variables are case-insensitive, but xonsh still treats them as case sensitive (as in setting ABC=5 and subsequently abc=7 ends up with two env vars) caused a problem with bat scripts I ran as part of a build process. Filed a bug - I'm sure they'll fix it. Anything serious like overwriting/removing? Nope. Caveat: I'm not a serious, power shell user. For me, just having a decent history, line editor, autocompletion was great. However, there is nothing that I'm used to in zsh in Linux that I clearly miss in xonsh. I'm sure I've thought a few minor things where it'll probably trivial for me to customize xonsh to get that zsh behavior...
  - StreakyCobra 10y ago
    Thanks for the feedback. I think I'll give it a go!

by yoavm 10y ago

StreakyCobra 10y ago

Except for the performance problem (I'll probably not be concerned with my workflow), what are the pros/cons of xonsh for you? Some of my concerns are: - Does having direct access to Python really make your work in command line faster/easier? - Is there some paradigms that are more difficult to express in xonsh (redirect, pipes, …) - Did you happen to encounter bugs, or made mistakes without intent to do it (like overwriting/removing files, …) ? In other words, without the performance problem, would you continue to use xonsh and recommend it?

BeetleB 10y ago
>Does having direct access to Python really make your work in command line faster/easier? Easier for me to write custom commands/aliases. I'm sure I could come up with creative uses for it - just haven't taken the time to do so. Also, I'm not a super sed/awk user, so that's an example where knowing Python helps. >Is there some paradigms that are more difficult to express in xonsh (redirect, pipes, …) Haven't run across any. I think a few may be mentioned in the docs, though. >Did you happen to encounter bugs, or made mistakes without intent to do it (like overwriting/removing files, …) ? Bugs: Yes - only applicable for Windows. In Windows, environment variables are case-insensitive, but xonsh still treats them as case sensitive (as in setting ABC=5 and subsequently abc=7 ends up with two env vars) caused a problem with bat scripts I ran as part of a build process. Filed a bug - I'm sure they'll fix it. Anything serious like overwriting/removing? Nope. Caveat: I'm not a serious, power shell user. For me, just having a decent history, line editor, autocompletion was great. However, there is nothing that I'm used to in zsh in Linux that I clearly miss in xonsh. I'm sure I've thought a few minor things where it'll probably trivial for me to customize xonsh to get that zsh behavior...
- StreakyCobra 10y ago
  Thanks for the feedback. I think I'll give it a go!