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None of these chips are for mobile. TDP on the chips in the Macbook Pro is 47W, while lowest TDP of the leaked Ryzen chips is 65W. What could be of great inter

None of these chips are for mobile. TDP on the chips in the Macbook Pro is 47W, while lowest TDP of the leaked Ryzen chips is 65W. What could be of great interest would be if Ryzen came with mobile chips with LPDDR4, that would really put pressure on intel. Then they could also do 50W TDP and still compete with Intel for the Macbook Pros.

dogma1138 10y ago
There aren't any Zen chips for mobile, there aren't any Zen "APUs" which have an integrated graphics card either. The AM4 APUs that are launching with Summit Ridge are still construction cores and they come at 65-90W TDP also. Until low TDP Zen chips are out and until Zen APUs are out AMD is effectively forfeiting the OEM and mobile markets. Intel has also managed to scale it's current Core based CPU's to as low as 4.5W TDP which I have a very strong feeling that AMD will not be able to do until 2019-2020 at best, not with the TDP for these chips currently. That said if AMD does release a 40-45W 4C CPU they'll have a strong chance of being a contender for at least some workstation level laptops, lack of native USB3 and no TB might hurt them but if PCIE over USB-C beats TB then they might still have a chance. However since the external GPU enclosures became reliable I will never buy a laptop that doesn't support one for personal use unless it's a very very small form factor device and that's unlikely. Lets see if AMD will be able to come with a similar solution to how seamless TB2/3 with Iris graphics and an external GPU work these days.
- AlphaSite 10y ago
  AMD already has such a solution and Raven Ridge (Zen APU) is coming 2nd half 2017 (as far as anyone is aware).
  - dogma1138 10y ago
    It has, it's not out yet, currently it just relaunched its construction core Bristol Ridge APUs. Once Raven Ridge will be out we can discuss it, currently Summit Ridge is nearly unknown.
- daveguy 10y ago
  The reason these are 65W+ is they are enthusiast CPUs (to compete with Intel desktops). They will have apu versions for mobile using this architecture later in the year.

dogma1138 10y ago

There aren't any Zen chips for mobile, there aren't any Zen "APUs" which have an integrated graphics card either. The AM4 APUs that are launching with Summit Ridge are still construction cores and they come at 65-90W TDP also. Until low TDP Zen chips are out and until Zen APUs are out AMD is effectively forfeiting the OEM and mobile markets. Intel has also managed to scale it's current Core based CPU's to as low as 4.5W TDP which I have a very strong feeling that AMD will not be able to do until 2019-2020 at best, not with the TDP for these chips currently. That said if AMD does release a 40-45W 4C CPU they'll have a strong chance of being a contender for at least some workstation level laptops, lack of native USB3 and no TB might hurt them but if PCIE over USB-C beats TB then they might still have a chance. However since the external GPU enclosures became reliable I will never buy a laptop that doesn't support one for personal use unless it's a very very small form factor device and that's unlikely. Lets see if AMD will be able to come with a similar solution to how seamless TB2/3 with Iris graphics and an external GPU work these days.

AlphaSite 10y ago
AMD already has such a solution and Raven Ridge (Zen APU) is coming 2nd half 2017 (as far as anyone is aware).
- dogma1138 10y ago
  It has, it's not out yet, currently it just relaunched its construction core Bristol Ridge APUs. Once Raven Ridge will be out we can discuss it, currently Summit Ridge is nearly unknown.
daveguy 10y ago
The reason these are 65W+ is they are enthusiast CPUs (to compete with Intel desktops). They will have apu versions for mobile using this architecture later in the year.