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> So how do you protect yourself? "Sorry, sir, I use a password keeper and left the password file at home. I do not have any passwords with me." That's not a

by devoply 10y ago

> So how do you protect yourself? "Sorry, sir, I use a password keeper and left the password file at home. I do not have any passwords with me." That's not a lie, and I would love for them to explain to the judge if they did ever choose to detain you as to how this is not a valid and legal excuse and non-cooperation in any way. And if you are in doubt about saying something like this, actually use a password keeper, it's a good security practice. Further, do not bring any electronic device with you.

pjc50 10y ago
Meanwhile on HN: "man jailed indefinitely for not decrypting hard drives": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13629728 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13629728
- devoply 10y ago
  That's a different issue. When a court orders you to do something, then they would tell you to go back home and get the passwords or allow you the ability to do that. It's not reasonable for border security to expect you to carry your passwords with you at all time for all the services you use. It's a security risk to you, from third parties which might want to steal your data. Like for instance robbers that might force you to divulge your banking information at gun point.
  - pjc50 10y ago
    What does "reasonable" have to do with CBP? They can detain you for a surprisingly long time or deport you (complete with banning you from further entry if you're not actually a US national) for failure to comply.
Erik816 10y ago
Except you probably have a password manager client app on your phone so you can look up and enter any passwords you need for your own convenience.
- devoply 10y ago
  Except I don't have my phone. Why don't I have my phone? Because I don't want it to be stolen and I have no need for it where I am going. I want to unplug and relax, not be on call all the time.
  - sporkologist 10y ago
    Wrong answer, citizen, the state requires you to carry a phone!
- E6300 10y ago
  Since you probably have such an app, then you possibly don't have it.
accountface 10y ago
Or just say you forgot the password.

by devoply 10y ago

pjc50 10y ago

Meanwhile on HN: "man jailed indefinitely for not decrypting hard drives": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13629728 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13629728

devoply 10y ago
That's a different issue. When a court orders you to do something, then they would tell you to go back home and get the passwords or allow you the ability to do that. It's not reasonable for border security to expect you to carry your passwords with you at all time for all the services you use. It's a security risk to you, from third parties which might want to steal your data. Like for instance robbers that might force you to divulge your banking information at gun point.
- pjc50 10y ago
  What does "reasonable" have to do with CBP? They can detain you for a surprisingly long time or deport you (complete with banning you from further entry if you're not actually a US national) for failure to comply.

Erik816 10y ago

Except you probably have a password manager client app on your phone so you can look up and enter any passwords you need for your own convenience.

devoply 10y ago
Except I don't have my phone. Why don't I have my phone? Because I don't want it to be stolen and I have no need for it where I am going. I want to unplug and relax, not be on call all the time.
- sporkologist 10y ago
  Wrong answer, citizen, the state requires you to carry a phone!
E6300 10y ago
Since you probably have such an app, then you possibly don't have it.

accountface 10y ago

Or just say you forgot the password.