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That falls apart with the simplest IP tracking. The government has all that data anyway, I see no reason they couldn't run a "background check" and figure out e

That falls apart with the simplest IP tracking. The government has all that data anyway, I see no reason they couldn't run a "background check" and figure out exactly who you are and what you've done. It's a false sense of security, is it not? It's probably best to assume your opponent isn't completely dumb.

ephemeral9235 10y ago
That depends on what your threat model is. I assume we're talking about random police or border searches of your phone. Not the NSA or some surveillance apparatus which can make warrantless inquiries to your ISP and social network providers at a moments notice. If we're facing a surveillance state without any internal obstructions then yes, far stricter opsec will be needed.
- aaron-lebo 10y ago
  You're right of course. I guess I'm wondering if border guards at any point in the future will have quick access to a database, presumably with information from a company that has either voluntarily or been forced to provide data. Sir, we just ran your social networking accounts and according to our data you have another Facebook account that you did not provide access to...
  - ephemeral9235 10y ago
    Such a database would indicate two things a) law enforcement has access to such a database without warrants b) facebook provides such a database without warrants. To me those would be reasons to leave the country and facebook.
    - WildUtah 10y ago
      A and b are both well established facts. You are, however, still allowed to leave both the country and Facebook without restriction. For now.
    - wheelerwj 10y ago
      where have you been?
- Canada 10y ago
  In the near future I expect random border searches to include all internet traffic associated with you. It's going to get hard for the average person to evade it. Your techniques won't be nearly enough. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/01/obama-administration-relaxes-rules-on-nsa-intelligence-sharing/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/01/obama-administra...
iak8god 10y ago
If a state intelligence agency is targeting you, there's just really not a lot you can do at that point. But ephemeral9235's suggestions should work OK to avoid handing over all your personal data at the border.
Vexs 10y ago
Even something like a VPN isn't really perfect, because a smart enough monitoring system could track a vpn connection coming from your system, and then compare that to traffic coming from the vpn. Tricky, but possible.
- psybin 10y ago
  Read the Snowden docs more closely, there's an express program for automatic identification of VPN traffic patterns.

ephemeral9235 10y ago

That depends on what your threat model is. I assume we're talking about random police or border searches of your phone. Not the NSA or some surveillance apparatus which can make warrantless inquiries to your ISP and social network providers at a moments notice. If we're facing a surveillance state without any internal obstructions then yes, far stricter opsec will be needed.

aaron-lebo 10y ago
You're right of course. I guess I'm wondering if border guards at any point in the future will have quick access to a database, presumably with information from a company that has either voluntarily or been forced to provide data. Sir, we just ran your social networking accounts and according to our data you have another Facebook account that you did not provide access to...
- ephemeral9235 10y ago
  Such a database would indicate two things a) law enforcement has access to such a database without warrants b) facebook provides such a database without warrants. To me those would be reasons to leave the country and facebook.
  - WildUtah 10y ago
    A and b are both well established facts. You are, however, still allowed to leave both the country and Facebook without restriction. For now.
  - wheelerwj 10y ago
    where have you been?
Canada 10y ago
In the near future I expect random border searches to include all internet traffic associated with you. It's going to get hard for the average person to evade it. Your techniques won't be nearly enough. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/01/obama-administration-relaxes-rules-on-nsa-intelligence-sharing/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/01/obama-administra...

iak8god 10y ago

If a state intelligence agency is targeting you, there's just really not a lot you can do at that point. But ephemeral9235's suggestions should work OK to avoid handing over all your personal data at the border.

Vexs 10y ago

Even something like a VPN isn't really perfect, because a smart enough monitoring system could track a vpn connection coming from your system, and then compare that to traffic coming from the vpn. Tricky, but possible.

psybin 10y ago
Read the Snowden docs more closely, there's an express program for automatic identification of VPN traffic patterns.