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> trying to forcefully deploy an hardfork that has no consensus. This doesn't make any sense. By definition a hardfork can only be successful if it has consens

by lawn 10y ago

> trying to forcefully deploy an hardfork that has no consensus. This doesn't make any sense. By definition a hardfork can only be successful if it has consensus. > Discussion of ideas and proposals is not censored. Keep deceiving yourself. > All in all, people seem to agree with the moderation policy of r/bitcoin. Everyone are well aware of these policies, yet it is still the most popular bitcoin forum. The logical fallacy is strong in this one. > It was never meant to be used to decide on the protocol rules and the validity of chains. Wrong again, that's the whole point. Why am I arguing with someone who obviously doesn't understand how bitcoin works and openly support censorship? Just a waste of time.

nadaviv 10y ago
> By definition a hardfork can only be successful if it has consensus. What? No. Splitting the currency and payment network in two is a very realistic outcome following an hardfork. I recently made some slides that go into details about the hard- vs hard- fork dynamics: https://www.docdroid.net/TouvFPl/embassy-future-politics-feb2017.pdf.html https://www.docdroid.net/TouvFPl/embassy-future-politics-feb... > Wrong again, that's the whole point. No, miners do not decide no the validity of blocks. It is the whole network who does so. If the miners ever try to cheat the system (creating more coins than they should, steal money that doesn't belong to them, etc) their blocks would be rejected by the rest of the network as invalid. > Why am I arguing with someone who obviously doesn't understand how bitcoin works. I actually happen to be a software developer that founded a bitcoin startup, so I think I'm at least somewhat qualified for this. https://www.bitrated.com/ https://www.bitrated.com/
simulx 10y ago
> By definition a hardfork can only be successful if it has consensus. Nope. BU has no threshold in place. If it had a 95% or even 80% consensus level built in, the resistance to it would be 1/10th of what it is now. > Keep deceiving yourself. Try it. Try posting something promoting BU, and don't go and try to pump it up with fake votes. Sure it will be unpopular - because BU is broken software - but it won't get moderated away. https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5u6d6j/i_am_new_to_btc_but_the_more_i_learn_about_btc/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5u6d6j/i_am_new_to... https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5rreaj/is_bu_rapid_and_steady_rise_a_pr_campaign/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5rreaj/is_bu_rapid...

by lawn 10y ago

nadaviv 10y ago

> By definition a hardfork can only be successful if it has consensus. What? No. Splitting the currency and payment network in two is a very realistic outcome following an hardfork. I recently made some slides that go into details about the hard- vs hard- fork dynamics: https://www.docdroid.net/TouvFPl/embassy-future-politics-feb2017.pdf.html https://www.docdroid.net/TouvFPl/embassy-future-politics-feb... > Wrong again, that's the whole point. No, miners do not decide no the validity of blocks. It is the whole network who does so. If the miners ever try to cheat the system (creating more coins than they should, steal money that doesn't belong to them, etc) their blocks would be rejected by the rest of the network as invalid. > Why am I arguing with someone who obviously doesn't understand how bitcoin works. I actually happen to be a software developer that founded a bitcoin startup, so I think I'm at least somewhat qualified for this. https://www.bitrated.com/ https://www.bitrated.com/

simulx 10y ago

> By definition a hardfork can only be successful if it has consensus. Nope. BU has no threshold in place. If it had a 95% or even 80% consensus level built in, the resistance to it would be 1/10th of what it is now. > Keep deceiving yourself. Try it. Try posting something promoting BU, and don't go and try to pump it up with fake votes. Sure it will be unpopular - because BU is broken software - but it won't get moderated away. https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5u6d6j/i_am_new_to_btc_but_the_more_i_learn_about_btc/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5u6d6j/i_am_new_to... https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5rreaj/is_bu_rapid_and_steady_rise_a_pr_campaign/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5rreaj/is_bu_rapid...