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Do we really need the USA anyway? What is honestly being lost if we're banned?

nodesocket 10y ago
> Do we really need the USA anyway? What is honestly being lost if we're banned? Good, don't come then. I've traveled the world a decent bit, and there is a reason why people from all over the world come to the US to start a business or try to make financial independence and a better life from their home country.
- simplemath 10y ago
  That may be changing.
  - jethro_tell 10y ago
    That has been/is changing.
- lechevalierd3on 10y ago
  Good you did, soon visa might be hard to get.
- crispinb 10y ago
  In many cases its because of ignorance -- America's cultural dominance simply makes it the default rich nation to try to enter. Many are shocked (in one case I vividly remember, to tears) to hear how much better life is for many in mainstream developed nations than it is in the US.
quirkafleeg 10y ago
I wouldn't phrase it like that but, yes, there are ~200 countries in the world. Things like this (and this[1]) just help destroy the idea that the US is a special haven of freedom that cause many people to want to visit in the first place. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13453189 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13453189
aianus 10y ago
Millions of dollars in lifetime earnings for most of my friends. And they're not even from poor countries, they're from Canada :/
tn13 10y ago
I had choice to move to UK, Canada or Australia. At least in my opinion USA is one of the last countries on earth which is offering near 100% freedom of speech, largely free trade and individual freedom, right to own guns and many other things which you can not own without nonsensical bureaucracy, huge landmass, top notch education and a growing capitalistic society. The way I see it countries like France, UK are pretty much going down the drain through which welfare states often go. In these countries government perhaps don't even need your password. They can do all sort of unauthorized searches any ways. Australian society remains hostile to non white people and China lacks individual and political freedom. Canada is close but it is far too cold for me. Japan is pretty much isolated because of the language and unique culture.
65827 10y ago
"Do we really need a country?" -Every fascist piece of shit ever

> Do we really need the USA anyway? What is honestly being lost if we're banned? Good, don't come then. I've traveled the world a decent bit, and there is a reason why people from all over the world come to the US to start a business or try to make financial independence and a better life from their home country.

simplemath 10y ago
That may be changing.
- jethro_tell 10y ago
  That has been/is changing.
lechevalierd3on 10y ago
Good you did, soon visa might be hard to get.
crispinb 10y ago
In many cases its because of ignorance -- America's cultural dominance simply makes it the default rich nation to try to enter. Many are shocked (in one case I vividly remember, to tears) to hear how much better life is for many in mainstream developed nations than it is in the US.

quirkafleeg 10y ago

I wouldn't phrase it like that but, yes, there are ~200 countries in the world. Things like this (and this[1]) just help destroy the idea that the US is a special haven of freedom that cause many people to want to visit in the first place. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13453189 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13453189

aianus 10y ago

Millions of dollars in lifetime earnings for most of my friends. And they're not even from poor countries, they're from Canada :/

tn13 10y ago

I had choice to move to UK, Canada or Australia. At least in my opinion USA is one of the last countries on earth which is offering near 100% freedom of speech, largely free trade and individual freedom, right to own guns and many other things which you can not own without nonsensical bureaucracy, huge landmass, top notch education and a growing capitalistic society. The way I see it countries like France, UK are pretty much going down the drain through which welfare states often go. In these countries government perhaps don't even need your password. They can do all sort of unauthorized searches any ways. Australian society remains hostile to non white people and China lacks individual and political freedom. Canada is close but it is far too cold for me. Japan is pretty much isolated because of the language and unique culture.

65827 10y ago

"Do we really need a country?" -Every fascist piece of shit ever