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I hope Oracle wins. The sooner Java dies, the better.

• grenoire 10y ago
  Are you that hateful of Java that you are blind to the implications of an Oracle win? It won't be just Java 'dying.'
  • pikachuisntcool 10y ago
    Our laws governing software are so fundamentally broken already lol. It doesn't matter anymore.
    • taeric 10y ago
      This is not helpful. Specifically, petulance will not lead to improvement. To that end, do you have any suggestions on making things better? Do you contribute to any organizations that are trying?
  • technofiend 10y ago
    Let's assume Oracle wins on appeal... What's next? Is everyone suddenly writing .Net code? Or are we left to find languages with lapsed copyrights? Fortran IV and Snobol are the new hotness! Everyone in to the pool!
    • bsg75 10y ago
      Languages without a corporate owner.
      • coldpie 10y ago
        JavaScript is right out. There's such a mish-mash of API owners there that it will give decades of court cases from copyright trolls. This is one of the most important tech cases in history. Oracle is on a fast-track to destroying the software industry with it.
        • pjmlp 10y ago
          Well, Google started it when they tried to avoid paying Java SE license to use it in embedded devices. For example, the guys from MicroEJ did the things the right way and don't have any issues with Oracle, http://www.microej.com/products/device-software-development/microej-os/ http://www.microej.com/products/device-software-development/...
        • petercooper 10y ago
          Oh don't worry, Oracle are one step ahead with JavaScript. They launched this Twitter account last week: https://twitter.com/javascript https://twitter.com/javascript .. and for a week they posted loads of Java stuff on it and haven't failed to point out in replies that they own JavaScript's trademark. The picture of their headquarters is also a nice touch.
      • pjmlp 10y ago
        Good luck finding those. Even Fortran, C and C++ compilers depend on the work that a few corporations like Apple, Google, Intel, Microsoft,... put working on the compilers and sending employees to ANSI meetings.
    • ktRolster 10y ago
      It depends on the details of the ruling (the court could decide to pass such a narrow judgement that it only affects Oracle). Here is an analysis of how the rulings (up until now) affect the software world: http://www.zerobugsandprogramfaster.net/essays/x-1.html http://www.zerobugsandprogramfaster.net/essays/x-1.html
• meddlepal 10y ago
  So edgy.
• sddfd 10y ago
  I still don't understand why Google did not buy Sun Microsystems. They hired a lot of the staff anyway, and could have avoided the lawsuit.
  • uiri 10y ago
    Hiring the staff and handling the lawsuit - Google has their own in-house law firm anyways - has likely worked out to be cheaper for them than buying Sun Microsystems would have been.
    • coredog64 10y ago
      Yes, but the downside on a lawsuit if Oracle prevails will be much worse. Imagine, if you will, all that Sun IP in the hands of Google instead of Oracle. ZFS might have gotten a license friendlier to Linux, Solaris could have stayed open source, and I would put money on Google having spun Java out into a completely open foundation that wouldn't have done what Oracle has done with new EE versions.
  • meddlepal 10y ago
    It's $7.4 billion they didn't need to spend. The legal fees are a fraction of that.
  • pikachuisntcool 10y ago
    Dude, who cares? Fuck both of them they're both incumbent, bloated, shitty companies that we'd all be better off with if they just didn't exist