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Currently in California looking to get out. It's too expensive, too crowded. The state of California is beautiful but laws and people ruined the whole thing. I

Currently in California looking to get out. It's too expensive, too crowded. The state of California is beautiful but laws and people ruined the whole thing. I feel like we don't have enough privacy here, we live on top of each other even outside of the main cities. If you're coming from Toronto I think the weather is not your main concern... So definitely avoid California. You'll get a higher paid job and will spend the extra money into taxes, housing, etc. So it's all fake here people don't save more money (we're all cash poor in Cali). Texas is the best alternative to California in my opinion. It's warm(er), you get more space and privacy for less, people are actually nicer (especially around the Austin area) and the food is amazing. I've always thought Texas was the craziest place on earth but after visiting a couple of times I totally see myself staying over there for a few years.

ghaff 10y ago
I have trouble recommending Texas--even Austin. Personally I pretty much hate the climate for much of the year and it's not an ideal spot for most of the outdoor activities that I favor. Other than the West Coast, I'd probably advocate for either New England or Colorado.
- bsvalley 10y ago
  The weather is clearly your concern. Colorado and New England are certainly high on the list in terms of nice places, but winter is a big problem. I'd rather go on a 2 week trip to the mountain in the snow, than spend 6 months waking up early on the morning with a shovel in one hand and a bag of salt on the other hand :)
  - parressh 10y ago
    I live in Denver and I only have to get my shovel out about 5 times a year. Coming from the Midwest, the winters here are amazing, comparatively. There's plenty to do in the winter and the mountains are great.
nul_byte 10y ago
I went to the OpenStack summit in austin last year and really loved the city. I live in the south west of the UK, which although can be nice for 4+ months of the year, is mostly dark, wet, cold from September to March.
jimmaswell 10y ago
>Texas is the best alternative to California in my opinion. It's warm(er), you get more space and privacy for less, people are actually nicer From what I've read about the laws that get passed there etc, there are a lot of classes of people Texans aren't "nice" to.
- bsvalley 10y ago
  What are you referring too exactly?
  - jimmaswell 10y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Texas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Texas + the new bathroom bill situation http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/21/506434513/texas-moves-to-block-planned-parenthood-from-medicaid-funds http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/21/506434513/...

ghaff 10y ago

I have trouble recommending Texas--even Austin. Personally I pretty much hate the climate for much of the year and it's not an ideal spot for most of the outdoor activities that I favor. Other than the West Coast, I'd probably advocate for either New England or Colorado.

bsvalley 10y ago
The weather is clearly your concern. Colorado and New England are certainly high on the list in terms of nice places, but winter is a big problem. I'd rather go on a 2 week trip to the mountain in the snow, than spend 6 months waking up early on the morning with a shovel in one hand and a bag of salt on the other hand :)
- parressh 10y ago
  I live in Denver and I only have to get my shovel out about 5 times a year. Coming from the Midwest, the winters here are amazing, comparatively. There's plenty to do in the winter and the mountains are great.

nul_byte 10y ago

I went to the OpenStack summit in austin last year and really loved the city. I live in the south west of the UK, which although can be nice for 4+ months of the year, is mostly dark, wet, cold from September to March.

jimmaswell 10y ago

>Texas is the best alternative to California in my opinion. It's warm(er), you get more space and privacy for less, people are actually nicer From what I've read about the laws that get passed there etc, there are a lot of classes of people Texans aren't "nice" to.

bsvalley 10y ago
What are you referring too exactly?
- jimmaswell 10y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Texas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Texas + the new bathroom bill situation http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/21/506434513/texas-moves-to-block-planned-parenthood-from-medicaid-funds http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/21/506434513/...