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And then nearby residents sue the city and the developer for encouraging customers to park on their residential streets. So, in Dallas, the parking requirement

by amyjess 10y ago

And then nearby residents sue the city and the developer for encouraging customers to park on their residential streets. So, in Dallas, the parking requirements for restaurants depend on the amount of seating the restaurant has. A few restaurants got around that by building giant patios with several times the seating as inside, because the regulation doesn't consider outside seating as seating. Residents complained about people parking on their streets and blocking their driveways, and they threatened massive lawsuits. The city council caved and passed a new regulation counting outdoor seating as seating, with no grandfather clause. Now these restaurants have to either build massive parking garages or close their doors.

xapata 10y ago
Ugh. Just enforce no parking in residential areas without the appropriate sticker, like most big cities do.
- freehunter 10y ago
  Then when grandma comes to visit, she gets a parking ticket because she didn't get the right permit? No, the better option is for shopping centers to have enough parking for the customers they anticipate having. Maybe giant parking lots suck, but a business shouldn't be able to destroy a residential neighborhood like that. I've lived in plenty of places where the stores were above the parking garages, and no one from the street could tell there was any parking at all. That's always an option.
  - xapata 10y ago
    > comes to visit ... gets a parking ticket Many neighborhoods that enforce parking permits have a card you can give your guests. Alternately, there may be paid parking nearby. > business shouldn't be able to destroy a residential neighborhood like that. Indeed, but I'd rather our laws and enforcement target the harm (non-residents taking your parking spot) and allow the nearby business to decide whether to offer parking or not. I've lived in and visited many large cities. All my favorite neighborhoods have solved this problem and for the most part the businesses chose to have very little parking, if any.
    - ENTP 10y ago
      We have a system like this and for us it means borrowing a car is a PITA: You only get a permit for a vehicle registered in your name. So when we borrow a car, we are not allowed to park it outside our own house.
      - xapata 10y ago
        Then I'd lobby for changing that system rather than for forcing the creation of more parking lots.

by amyjess 10y ago

xapata 10y ago

Ugh. Just enforce no parking in residential areas without the appropriate sticker, like most big cities do.

freehunter 10y ago
Then when grandma comes to visit, she gets a parking ticket because she didn't get the right permit? No, the better option is for shopping centers to have enough parking for the customers they anticipate having. Maybe giant parking lots suck, but a business shouldn't be able to destroy a residential neighborhood like that. I've lived in plenty of places where the stores were above the parking garages, and no one from the street could tell there was any parking at all. That's always an option.
- xapata 10y ago
  > comes to visit ... gets a parking ticket Many neighborhoods that enforce parking permits have a card you can give your guests. Alternately, there may be paid parking nearby. > business shouldn't be able to destroy a residential neighborhood like that. Indeed, but I'd rather our laws and enforcement target the harm (non-residents taking your parking spot) and allow the nearby business to decide whether to offer parking or not. I've lived in and visited many large cities. All my favorite neighborhoods have solved this problem and for the most part the businesses chose to have very little parking, if any.
  - ENTP 10y ago
    We have a system like this and for us it means borrowing a car is a PITA: You only get a permit for a vehicle registered in your name. So when we borrow a car, we are not allowed to park it outside our own house.
    - xapata 10y ago
      Then I'd lobby for changing that system rather than for forcing the creation of more parking lots.