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You guys seem to think that Google is benevolent by giving engineers that 20%, while in fact they do that for very selfish reasons: it is all about copyrights.

by mamon 10y ago

You guys seem to think that Google is benevolent by giving engineers that 20%, while in fact they do that for very selfish reasons: it is all about copyrights. They hire the smartest Software Engineers in the world, so it is only a matter of time that some of them will create new, disruptive product. If they weren't given that 20% of time at Google they would do that anyway, on weekends, but since they do it in company-sponsored time then Google owns the copyrights to all of their work.

hiddencost 10y ago
Companies own your work even if you do it off the clock, in many cases.
- aioprisan 10y ago
  That's not the case in most states, like California, New York and Massachusetts, due to state laws.
  - user5994461 10y ago
    This is not the case in most countries in the world. Given that you work on your own time and don't use company's resources.
  - hak8or 10y ago
    What new York state law prohibits this? My contract says that as a salaried employee I work at the company for 23:59 hours Monday to saturday, so it's only Sunday that's off the clock. And from what I understood, all inventions they own, but I am still very iffy on what's qualified as an invention. A coworker even asked for bosses blessing to sell some stuff on the side unrelated to the company, he said no because as per the contract that wouldn't let coworker give full undivided attention to the company.
  - neilparikh 10y ago
    California excludes IP that: > Relate at the time of conception or reduction to practice of the invention to the employer’s business, or actual or demonstrably anticipated research or development of the employer For google, that's pretty much all software related projects.
dopamean 10y ago
> You guys seem to think that Google is benevolent by giving engineers that 20%, while in fact they do that for very selfish reasons: it is all about copyrights. What did he say that makes you think that?

by mamon 10y ago

hiddencost 10y ago

Companies own your work even if you do it off the clock, in many cases.

aioprisan 10y ago
That's not the case in most states, like California, New York and Massachusetts, due to state laws.
- user5994461 10y ago
  This is not the case in most countries in the world. Given that you work on your own time and don't use company's resources.
- hak8or 10y ago
  What new York state law prohibits this? My contract says that as a salaried employee I work at the company for 23:59 hours Monday to saturday, so it's only Sunday that's off the clock. And from what I understood, all inventions they own, but I am still very iffy on what's qualified as an invention. A coworker even asked for bosses blessing to sell some stuff on the side unrelated to the company, he said no because as per the contract that wouldn't let coworker give full undivided attention to the company.
- neilparikh 10y ago
  California excludes IP that: > Relate at the time of conception or reduction to practice of the invention to the employer’s business, or actual or demonstrably anticipated research or development of the employer For google, that's pretty much all software related projects.

dopamean 10y ago

> You guys seem to think that Google is benevolent by giving engineers that 20%, while in fact they do that for very selfish reasons: it is all about copyrights. What did he say that makes you think that?