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OK, then I guess all I'm saying is I think my definitions are right and others' are wrong. My definition is: Pretend there is a dark shroud covering away all b
by galdosdi 10y ago
OK, then I guess all I'm saying is I think my definitions are right and others' are wrong. My definition is:
Pretend there is a dark shroud covering away all boundaries of your property line. Whatever elements, whether noise, shadow, smell, smoke, etc enter into your property volume, you are allowed to complain about. Anything outside of that, you are not. How damned hard is that?
- cortesoft 10y agoI think almost all zoning laws actually meet your definition; there are very few zoning laws (that I know of) that specify what colors or shapes you can use on your property. They all deal with things that 'leak' outside your property. Do you have any examples of zoning or land use laws that don't fit your definition of 'things we are allowed to regulate'?
- ghaff 10y agoYou might be surprised. There are certainly historic districts that can impose fairly explicit regulations on colors and shapes. One also reads about HOAs that cause trouble about insufficiently mowed lawns and the like although I don't know how common that is vs. "man bites dog" news stories.
- emodendroket 10y agoHOAs can be all kinds of awful but they're not government entities.
- iopq 10y agoSan Francisco zoning laws actually just flat out discourage development. This is because San Francisco property owners like that their properties are becoming worth more so they vote that way.
- hueving 10y agoPretty much every hoa imposes some restriction based on looks (types of fences allowed, paint upkeep, etc).
- cortesoft 10y agoAnd HOA isn't the law, though.
- bjelkeman-again 10y agoThat depends on in which culture and region you live. We have just built a new garage where we live. We have a quite lenient local government and great neighbours. The local government checked with the neighbours (10 of them, nobody objected), as we needed to replace a building that was too close to the border of the property (4 meters minimum distance) with something as close as what we replaced (1.5 meter), due to layout and topology of the property. We needed to submit drawings of the garage, explain that it fit well with the main building, a distinct house from 1909, well known in the neighbourhood. Describe the colour to be used, including the colour on the garage door. They come and check that the foundations get placed within four inches (10 cm) of what the building permit allows. Do I mind? No. End result is good, took longer than expected due to heavy load on the city planning department. In some villages in Switzerland you get fined if you don't have the right colour flowers on your balcony. (Or maybe the flowers showed up on your doorstep, with a mandatory bill, without having to ask.) :) Edit:splng
- averagewall 10y agoHaving a view is something some people want and they're willing to pay for it. With your scheme, nobody can be sure they'll keep their view if the neighbor builds too high and blocks it.
- arjie 10y agoWhat does shadow mean? As the sun sets, there's going to be some time when things fall into the shade.
- fictioncircle 10y agoHave you ever had someone on your block convert their place to a half-way house and/or mental care home?
- mauvehaus 10y agoIn practice, having lived a couple houses from one (as a renter), it's more a theoretical problem than a practical one. Given that the two condos that sold near me (one next door, and one two doors away) went in the 300k-350k range, it doesn't seem to be depressing the property values much either.
- fictioncircle 10y agoI guess I am just imagining my life experiences then. Lol.