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yes, and it's filling shit jobs that no American CS grad wants to do. who wants to do outsourced QA for Oracle? menial, mind numbing clicky work. who wants to
by pinaceae 10y ago
yes, and it's filling shit jobs that no American CS grad wants to do.
who wants to do outsourced QA for Oracle? menial, mind numbing clicky work.
who wants to maintain monster codebases built 20 years ago for some internal bullshit system at a Fortune 500?
most of Software work by now is akin to facilities management. hence you give it to motivated foreigners, just like in farming, etc.
- gaius 10y agoFor a decent salary, lots of people. Do the 9-5 and spend the rest of the time on hobbies or with family. And why not?
- pinaceae 10y agosimply not true. become a hiring manager and you'll see. you don't even get applications for those jobs by American CS grads or professionals - before any salary numbers are in play. we run analysis in our HR pipeline trackers - remove Asians and Eastern Europeans and its crickets. walk into Google, Facebook, Salesforce offices and see for yourself. i know this is super unpopular on HN were everyone is a superstar coder, but facts are fact. 90% of software work is undesirable and unfulfilling - and Westerners feel entitled to life-changing work. I just had a 26 year-old US coder quit because he does not want to come to work every day anymore, he now wants to travel Nepal and do something radical. Great for him - while a 1000 less-fortunate-by- birthplace people would give a leg for his job.
- gaius 10y agoyou don't even get applications for those jobs by American CS grads or professionals I just had a 26 year-old US coder I think you may be looking at this through a very narrow perspective of SF 20-something startup culture. But look at any other branch of engineering - civil, electrical, mechanical etc - and the backbone of those fields is 30- 40 and 50- somethings who work normal office hours.