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> Because citizens of countries other than india and china don't really need h1 visas to work in US. A complete lie. We in Europe are bound by the exact same r

by camus2 10y ago

> Because citizens of countries other than india and china don't really need h1 visas to work in US. A complete lie. We in Europe are bound by the exact same rules as the Indians or the Chinese when it comes to immigration to US.

aub3bhat 10y ago
Except European countries greatly benefitted from Chinese Exclusion Act. The legacy of which still exists today in form of per country quota. In fact when passing the Immigration Act of 1965 (untill then only few hundred indians/Chinese were allowed.) The then president sought to reassure people that country won't be overrun by Indians. https://www.saada.org/tides/article/20151001-4458 https://www.saada.org/tides/article/20151001-4458
- camus2 10y ago
  Which does not make the following statement true : > Because citizens of countries other than india and china don't really need h1 visas to work in US.
  - aub3bhat 10y ago
    Yes they don't the Green Card even for EB-3 category are current for most countries except India, China & Mexico. Arguing on semantic grounds is frankly expressing white privilege. Just like people who argue that some segregation laws didn't explicitly mention black people. And thus were good. Even within American lawmakers the current per country system is considered a mistake and several legislations including the comprehensive immigration reform passed by Senate in 2013 eliminated it.
    - raitom 10y ago
      It takes years to get a green card on EB-3 (same on EB-2) if your country is Current. Most companies don't want to wait 2+ years and pay $10k in lawyer's fees.
      - aub3bhat 10y ago
        It takes less than 6 months and even less than 3 months if you pay extra for expedite processing.
      - raitom 10y ago
        @aub3bhat: Send me more informations about that. The PERM process in itself takes 6 months.
        aub3bhat 10y ago
        You can bypass PERM via NIW.
        raitom 10y ago
        How difficult is is?
jza00425 10y ago
And you should.
calvinbhai 10y ago
read my reply to @raitom above. Europeans probably dont know how they can work in US without the shackles of H1b. Ignorant people always think facts are lies. Open your eyes dear European :)
- camus2 10y ago
  > . Yes Mr. or Ms. French, you too. > Ignorant people always think facts are lies. You're answer to raitom is uninformed bullshit, with a patronizing and insulting tone on the top. I'm well aware of the process, I went through it. I'm telling you Europeans need H1b as much as Indians or Chinese do in order to work in US.
  - calvinbhai 10y ago
    sure. But the workaround (Filing GC under OPT) works only for those who are not Indians or Chinese. I dont understand why people (who are not Indian or chinese) cannot spare 2 years to get a masters degree and take this step, instead of risking H1b lottery and take the long winded road to work in US.

by camus2 10y ago

aub3bhat 10y ago

Except European countries greatly benefitted from Chinese Exclusion Act. The legacy of which still exists today in form of per country quota. In fact when passing the Immigration Act of 1965 (untill then only few hundred indians/Chinese were allowed.) The then president sought to reassure people that country won't be overrun by Indians. https://www.saada.org/tides/article/20151001-4458 https://www.saada.org/tides/article/20151001-4458

camus2 10y ago
Which does not make the following statement true : > Because citizens of countries other than india and china don't really need h1 visas to work in US.
- aub3bhat 10y ago
  Yes they don't the Green Card even for EB-3 category are current for most countries except India, China & Mexico. Arguing on semantic grounds is frankly expressing white privilege. Just like people who argue that some segregation laws didn't explicitly mention black people. And thus were good. Even within American lawmakers the current per country system is considered a mistake and several legislations including the comprehensive immigration reform passed by Senate in 2013 eliminated it.
  - raitom 10y ago
    It takes years to get a green card on EB-3 (same on EB-2) if your country is Current. Most companies don't want to wait 2+ years and pay $10k in lawyer's fees.
    - aub3bhat 10y ago
      It takes less than 6 months and even less than 3 months if you pay extra for expedite processing.
    - raitom 10y ago
      @aub3bhat: Send me more informations about that. The PERM process in itself takes 6 months.
      - aub3bhat 10y ago
        You can bypass PERM via NIW.
        raitom 10y ago
        How difficult is is?

jza00425 10y ago

And you should.

calvinbhai 10y ago

read my reply to @raitom above. Europeans probably dont know how they can work in US without the shackles of H1b. Ignorant people always think facts are lies. Open your eyes dear European :)

camus2 10y ago
> . Yes Mr. or Ms. French, you too. > Ignorant people always think facts are lies. You're answer to raitom is uninformed bullshit, with a patronizing and insulting tone on the top. I'm well aware of the process, I went through it. I'm telling you Europeans need H1b as much as Indians or Chinese do in order to work in US.
- calvinbhai 10y ago
  sure. But the workaround (Filing GC under OPT) works only for those who are not Indians or Chinese. I dont understand why people (who are not Indian or chinese) cannot spare 2 years to get a masters degree and take this step, instead of risking H1b lottery and take the long winded road to work in US.