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Internet Backbone Provider Cogent Blocks Pirate Bay and Other “Pirate” Sites

14 points by doctorshady 10y ago

doctorshady 10y ago
This seems like something that needs further verification on the intentions since they won't comment on it, but the implications are enormous if this is what's actually going on. Before anybody talks about net neutrality, I believe the original rules Wheeler set in place will allow blocking of illegal materials if I remember correctly. I know the present situation with the FCC is less than great, but just keep this in mind. EDIT: Try it for yourself here: http://www.cogentco.com/en/network/looking-glass http://www.cogentco.com/en/network/looking-glass
- wmf 10y ago
  Yeah, I wonder if Cogent is blocking a DDoS or something. Traditionally ISPs did not get involved in deciding what is and isn't illegal; SOPA/PIPA were trying to create ISP-level blocks but those bills did not become law. But traditionally ISPs didn't have big peering disputes and extort content providers either. This also makes me wonder how CloudFlare decides what sites to assign to what IP addresses. Do they put legit sites on one IP, porn on another, pirates on yet another, and booters on another?
BrailleHunting 10y ago
Distributed Great Firewall of America beta v0.0.3 changelog - Start deprecating net neutrality (Title II) :'( Porn, political and streaming sites are next unless customers/grassroots people raise hell.
packetized 10y ago
Welp, they are definitely blackholing it inside of their own network. From their very own looking glass: Frankfurt: BGP routing table entry for 104.31.19.30/32, version 3435302524 Paths: (1 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table) Local 10.255.255.255 (metric 10118050) from 38.28.1.83 (38.28.1.83) Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 150, valid, internal, best Community: 174:990 174:20912 174:21001 Originator: 66.28.1.228, Cluster list: 38.28.1.83, 38.28.1.67, 38.28.1.65, 154.54.66.49 Washington, D.C.: BGP routing table entry for 104.31.19.30/32, version 611495772 Paths: (1 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table) Local 10.255.255.255 (metric 10177050) from 154.54.66.21 (154.54.66.21) Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 150, valid, internal, best Community: 174:990 174:20912 174:21001 Originator: 66.28.1.228, Cluster list: 154.54.66.21, 66.28.1.9 ... and the originator: $ host 66.28.1.228 228.1.28.66.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer lo0.blackhole.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com. $ Answers that question.
- packetized 10y ago
  Also to further amend my comment, the BGP communities (990 20912 21001) instruct routers to: 990 - Do not send route to BGP customers, or peers. 20912 - <Undocumented, presumably internal to Cogent> 21001 - Route is NA internal or customer route. ...and they're continuing to blackhole that /32.

14 points by doctorshady 10y ago

This seems like something that needs further verification on the intentions since they won't comment on it, but the implications are enormous if this is what's actually going on. Before anybody talks about net neutrality, I believe the original rules Wheeler set in place will allow blocking of illegal materials if I remember correctly. I know the present situation with the FCC is less than great, but just keep this in mind. EDIT: Try it for yourself here: http://www.cogentco.com/en/network/looking-glass http://www.cogentco.com/en/network/looking-glass

wmf 10y ago
Yeah, I wonder if Cogent is blocking a DDoS or something. Traditionally ISPs did not get involved in deciding what is and isn't illegal; SOPA/PIPA were trying to create ISP-level blocks but those bills did not become law. But traditionally ISPs didn't have big peering disputes and extort content providers either. This also makes me wonder how CloudFlare decides what sites to assign to what IP addresses. Do they put legit sites on one IP, porn on another, pirates on yet another, and booters on another?

BrailleHunting 10y ago

Distributed Great Firewall of America beta v0.0.3 changelog - Start deprecating net neutrality (Title II) :'( Porn, political and streaming sites are next unless customers/grassroots people raise hell.

packetized 10y ago

Welp, they are definitely blackholing it inside of their own network. From their very own looking glass: Frankfurt: BGP routing table entry for 104.31.19.30/32, version 3435302524 Paths: (1 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table) Local 10.255.255.255 (metric 10118050) from 38.28.1.83 (38.28.1.83) Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 150, valid, internal, best Community: 174:990 174:20912 174:21001 Originator: 66.28.1.228, Cluster list: 38.28.1.83, 38.28.1.67, 38.28.1.65, 154.54.66.49 Washington, D.C.: BGP routing table entry for 104.31.19.30/32, version 611495772 Paths: (1 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table) Local 10.255.255.255 (metric 10177050) from 154.54.66.21 (154.54.66.21) Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 150, valid, internal, best Community: 174:990 174:20912 174:21001 Originator: 66.28.1.228, Cluster list: 154.54.66.21, 66.28.1.9 ... and the originator: $ host 66.28.1.228 228.1.28.66.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer lo0.blackhole.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com. $ Answers that question.

packetized 10y ago
Also to further amend my comment, the BGP communities (990 20912 21001) instruct routers to: 990 - Do not send route to BGP customers, or peers. 20912 - <Undocumented, presumably internal to Cogent> 21001 - Route is NA internal or customer route. ...and they're continuing to blackhole that /32.