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Given the fact that every college in the country enacts affirmative action, it's apparent that non-whites and women would have no problem getting into the IT fi

Given the fact that every college in the country enacts affirmative action, it's apparent that non-whites and women would have no problem getting into the IT field. And given the fact that over 60 percent of people graduating college today are women, that tells me that it's just not a field they're interested in. I don't see why that's a problem.

southphillyman 10y ago
You don't understand why lack of diversity in an industry is a problem? A complaint that I often hear is that SV is full of start ups focused on "Uber for catnip" and other unimaginative useless things. Wouldn't diversity address this alleged homogeny of services(think Bevel)?
- dukeluke 10y ago
  I see no merit in forced diversity. If they have the opportunity and incentive to choose this field, yet go elsewhere, that's fine by me.
  - tabeth 10y ago
    You've yet to prove that they've had "the opportunity and incentive to choose this field, yet go elsewhere."
    - dukeluke 10y ago
      Affirmative action means women and minorities get preferential treatment during hiring. Given the fact that women and minorities are underrepresented in tech, it should be obvious that they would have an incentive to join the industry because they would have very little trouble getting hired wherever they want. And given the fact that over 60 percent of graduates are women, it's clear that lack of opportunity isn't a factor for women at least.
      - tabeth 10y ago
        So you basically have no evidence to back up meaningless, unsubstantiated claims. You don't even support your statement: "affirmative action means women and minorities get preferential treatment during hiring." Guess the discussion is over since you refuse to provide any evidence to back up your ridiculous claims.
        dukeluke 10y ago
        > You don't even support your statement: "affirmative action means women and minorities get preferential treatment during hiring." Are you saying this is untrue? If I am wrong, then what is affirmative action?
        obstacle1 10y ago
        It's really easy to plug your ears and scream that an opponent's argument is "ridiculous" (what you are doing). It's more difficult to actually make a counterargument yourself (what you are not doing). Try harder, maybe.

southphillyman 10y ago

You don't understand why lack of diversity in an industry is a problem? A complaint that I often hear is that SV is full of start ups focused on "Uber for catnip" and other unimaginative useless things. Wouldn't diversity address this alleged homogeny of services(think Bevel)?

dukeluke 10y ago
I see no merit in forced diversity. If they have the opportunity and incentive to choose this field, yet go elsewhere, that's fine by me.
- tabeth 10y ago
  You've yet to prove that they've had "the opportunity and incentive to choose this field, yet go elsewhere."
  - dukeluke 10y ago
    Affirmative action means women and minorities get preferential treatment during hiring. Given the fact that women and minorities are underrepresented in tech, it should be obvious that they would have an incentive to join the industry because they would have very little trouble getting hired wherever they want. And given the fact that over 60 percent of graduates are women, it's clear that lack of opportunity isn't a factor for women at least.
    - tabeth 10y ago
      So you basically have no evidence to back up meaningless, unsubstantiated claims. You don't even support your statement: "affirmative action means women and minorities get preferential treatment during hiring." Guess the discussion is over since you refuse to provide any evidence to back up your ridiculous claims.
      - dukeluke 10y ago
        > You don't even support your statement: "affirmative action means women and minorities get preferential treatment during hiring." Are you saying this is untrue? If I am wrong, then what is affirmative action?
      - obstacle1 10y ago
        It's really easy to plug your ears and scream that an opponent's argument is "ridiculous" (what you are doing). It's more difficult to actually make a counterargument yourself (what you are not doing). Try harder, maybe.