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I often feel that the hate directed toward Tesla and it's fanbase is unwarranted. Arguments about how they aren't that amazing, how their fans are over the top
by wwalser 10y ago
I often feel that the hate directed toward Tesla and it's fanbase is unwarranted. Arguments about how they aren't that amazing, how their fans are over the top and how they took government subsidies just fell flat for me. They all have very transparent and valid counter-points. It's okay to feel that a corporation is pretty darn neat. It's okay if others feel it's amazeballs. Chill out.
But this comment. The one I'm responding to. It's the first time I've seen someone talk about Tesla and thought "WTF? This person can't be serious."
It's okay to think it's "important". I think Tesla is pretty darn neat. Asking others to quietly sacrifice their health for that thing? While being uninvolved yourself? That, I can't wrap my head around.
- kneel 10y agoWhy don't you think I'm being serious? I stated that I'm conflicted and seeing both sides.
- wwalser 10y agoMy reasons are outlined in the last four sentences of my comment.
- kneel 10y agoWell you're putting words in my mouth then. I never said anything about workers needing to sacrifice their health. I stated ambivalent feelings and questioned the timing while admitting my own nativity about true conditions.
- wwalser 10y agoMy mistake. I was suppose to read your comment, a comment on an article with multiple paragraphs dedicated to the health and safety of Tesla workers, as if it were not a response to claims about the health and safety of Tesla's workers. Got it.
- CodeWriter23 10y agoWhat "subsidies"? The tax break nearly ALL auto manufacturers are taking for the first ~250k EVs they each make? Or are we talking about the loan they took from the DoE that Tesla repaid like a decade ahead of schedule?
- wwalser 10y agoFor arguments _against_ Tesla, you'll have to go looking elsewhere. If you read my comment again, you might note that I didn't make those arguments and in fact said that they fell flat for me. I also mentioned that there are great counter-points to such arguments. Put more plainly, I already understand and agree with the point you're making. You're literally arguing with someone who agrees with you on the internet. Take a breath and consider that.
- CodeWriter23 10y ago:) I wasn't arguing with you. I was trying to net out the lunacy you are observing.
- chillwaves 10y agoVery balanced comment. Echos my reaction. I love Tesla and what Elon Musk is doing. I love his vision. But I am horrified (though I supposed not shocked) to see how casually the consumer/investor base throw workers under the bus.