Sooo, only NC State then. When I think Non-top tier I think Chico and Northern Colorado, not Duke and U-Penn. Guess that shows more about what my idea of top-ti

Sooo, only NC State then. When I think Non-top tier I think Chico and Northern Colorado, not Duke and U-Penn. Guess that shows more about what my idea of top-tier is looking up than what I would think looking down.