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London. The city with the highest cost of living in Europe [citation needed]. Look anywhere else in the UK and it's more like £25000-£35000.

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muzfuz 10y ago
True - but then that's the general issue with London vs the rest of the country. Compared to other careers, dev salaries in London make the city pretty liveable. I'm certainly not struggling to service a mortgage in Zone 2, and many devs I know are similarly comfortable.
- switch007 10y ago
  You, or you and a partner? Do you work in finance? I'm having trouble with my idea of average dev salaries and zone 2 prices equalling comfortable (i.e. nice amount of savings and disposable income after mortgage payment). If non-finance, I must be really out of touch with London salaries. I had an email today offering "up to £50k" for a devops position at a web agency...risible.
  - walshemj 10y ago
    the problem I that marketing and publishing don't treat the techies with respect "contempt" was how my last but one boss put it and he was a director at a subsidiary of relex
  - muzfuz 10y ago
    Myself and a partner, and no I'm not in finance, and don't plan to be any time soon. Also, it's the very edge of zone 2, so that helps.
  - user5994461 10y ago
    Risible indeed. Lemme give you more perspective of London salaries. Good you are in DevOps because I got that keyword on my resume too. These are all the LinkedIn messages with a salary range I got since the beginning of February. Mostly from recruiters. (target: typical 20-30 years old, nothing special). * DevOps Engineer - Cloud Managed Service - Aldgate east (London) - £50k - £65k * DevOps Engineer - a global digital market agency - Canary Wharf - £60k - £70k * DevOps Engineer - Kings Cross - £65k - £75k * SysAdmin (DevOps) - £50k * Senior Site Reliability Engineer - market leading eCommerce client based in London - £70,000 + 20% bonus and competitive benefits. * Consultant on <specific tech I worked on before> + DevOps - "The day rate is around the £800 mark." * world’s largest peer to peer lending services - up to £75K + benefits. * London’s leading Cloud and Automation Consultancies (within financial services). - up to £60K + benefits.. Of course, it's only the 9th right now. The month just begins :D
ukpaythrowaway 10y ago
I think that's too pessimistic. With less than 5 years experience, and having made some less-than-optimal career decisions, I've got about £45,000 total compensation. (Central Belt, Scotland)
- JetSetWilly 10y ago
  After 10 years XP I am on 65K per year, also central belt of Scotland. It is possible to make a decent living outside London for sure.
- GordonS 10y ago
  Do you work in finance perchance? Most dev salaries in Scotland are not that good with just 5y experience, but finance sector jobs seem to generally come with higher salaries. I have 15y experience, working in Aberdeen (which has a much higher CoL than the central belt) and am on 55k - which is pretty much the top end

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muzfuz 10y ago

True - but then that's the general issue with London vs the rest of the country. Compared to other careers, dev salaries in London make the city pretty liveable. I'm certainly not struggling to service a mortgage in Zone 2, and many devs I know are similarly comfortable.

switch007 10y ago
You, or you and a partner? Do you work in finance? I'm having trouble with my idea of average dev salaries and zone 2 prices equalling comfortable (i.e. nice amount of savings and disposable income after mortgage payment). If non-finance, I must be really out of touch with London salaries. I had an email today offering "up to £50k" for a devops position at a web agency...risible.
- walshemj 10y ago
  the problem I that marketing and publishing don't treat the techies with respect "contempt" was how my last but one boss put it and he was a director at a subsidiary of relex
- muzfuz 10y ago
  Myself and a partner, and no I'm not in finance, and don't plan to be any time soon. Also, it's the very edge of zone 2, so that helps.
- user5994461 10y ago
  Risible indeed. Lemme give you more perspective of London salaries. Good you are in DevOps because I got that keyword on my resume too. These are all the LinkedIn messages with a salary range I got since the beginning of February. Mostly from recruiters. (target: typical 20-30 years old, nothing special). * DevOps Engineer - Cloud Managed Service - Aldgate east (London) - £50k - £65k * DevOps Engineer - a global digital market agency - Canary Wharf - £60k - £70k * DevOps Engineer - Kings Cross - £65k - £75k * SysAdmin (DevOps) - £50k * Senior Site Reliability Engineer - market leading eCommerce client based in London - £70,000 + 20% bonus and competitive benefits. * Consultant on <specific tech I worked on before> + DevOps - "The day rate is around the £800 mark." * world’s largest peer to peer lending services - up to £75K + benefits. * London’s leading Cloud and Automation Consultancies (within financial services). - up to £60K + benefits.. Of course, it's only the 9th right now. The month just begins :D

ukpaythrowaway 10y ago

I think that's too pessimistic. With less than 5 years experience, and having made some less-than-optimal career decisions, I've got about £45,000 total compensation. (Central Belt, Scotland)

JetSetWilly 10y ago
After 10 years XP I am on 65K per year, also central belt of Scotland. It is possible to make a decent living outside London for sure.
GordonS 10y ago
Do you work in finance perchance? Most dev salaries in Scotland are not that good with just 5y experience, but finance sector jobs seem to generally come with higher salaries. I have 15y experience, working in Aberdeen (which has a much higher CoL than the central belt) and am on 55k - which is pretty much the top end