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Being liberal doesn't mean that you block everything that the other side is doing. It's also about being open and accepting to others and their views. Shopify d

by d2ncal 10y ago

Being liberal doesn't mean that you block everything that the other side is doing. It's also about being open and accepting to others and their views. Shopify did the right thing here.

paulgb 10y ago
Nobody has the obligation to help fundraise for hate speech.
- tomp 10y ago
  Can you point to any examples of hate speech by Breitbart?
  - paulgb 10y ago
    "If for no other reasons than manners and aesthetics, we ought to think about shoving the next generation [of gays] back into Narnia." Yes, I know Milo is gay, doesn't mean this isn't advocating violence against a group of people, fitting most definitions of hate speech. I feel dirty linking to the article but you can google it for the source.
    - tomp 10y ago
      This [1] is a pretty tongue-in-cheek article (the quip about anal sex was particularly funny), but given that his main point seems to be that gays are smarter than average, so they should have more kids, I just cannot possibly interpret the above quote (or any other part of the article) as advocating violence... [1] http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/17/gay-rights-have-made-us-dumber-its-time-to-get-back-in-the-closet/ http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/17/gay-right...
mikeash 10y ago
Being liberal does not require accepting Nazis. I will defend their right to hold their views and say what they want, but they have no right to do business with a particular e-commerce site.
- tomp 10y ago
  By comparing Breitbart with Nazi you're being incredibly disrespectful to the actual Nazi victims.
  - mikeash 10y ago
    Their Shopify store includes a t-shirt with a fricken' parteiadler on it. I think the label is entirely justified.
    - tomp 10y ago
      Link? I found this [1], but the label suggests it's the US eagle instead... [1] https://store.breitbart.com/collections/mens/products/e-pluribus-unum-t-shirt https://store.breitbart.com/collections/mens/products/e-plur...
      - mikeash 10y ago
        I found this one, but basically the same: https://store.breitbart.com/collections/all-products/products/e-pluribus-unum-long-sleeve https://store.breitbart.com/collections/all-products/product... The US eagle has its wings going up, not straight sideways. And the head is pointed to the eagle's right, not the left. (This is also the difference between the reichsadler, which is a more generic symbol of Germany, and the parteiadler, which is a Nazi symbol: the riechsadler's head points to the eagle's right, while the parteiadler's head points left.) Just compare: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Seal_of_the_United_States#/media/File:Great_Seal_of_the_United_States_(obverse).svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Seal_of_the_United_State... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Parteiadler_der_Nationalsozialistische_Deutsche_Arbeiterpartei_(1933–1945)_(andere).svg/1280px-Parteiadler_der_Nationalsozialistische_Deutsche_Arbeiterpartei_(1933–1945)_(andere).svg.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Pa... The one on the shirt is quite close to the second (minus the swastika) and quite distant from the first.
        tomp 10y ago

by d2ncal 10y ago

Being liberal doesn't mean that you block everything that the other side is doing. It's also about being open and accepting to others and their views. Shopify did the right thing here.

paulgb 10y ago

Nobody has the obligation to help fundraise for hate speech.

tomp 10y ago
Can you point to any examples of hate speech by Breitbart?
- paulgb 10y ago
  "If for no other reasons than manners and aesthetics, we ought to think about shoving the next generation [of gays] back into Narnia." Yes, I know Milo is gay, doesn't mean this isn't advocating violence against a group of people, fitting most definitions of hate speech. I feel dirty linking to the article but you can google it for the source.
  - tomp 10y ago
    This [1] is a pretty tongue-in-cheek article (the quip about anal sex was particularly funny), but given that his main point seems to be that gays are smarter than average, so they should have more kids, I just cannot possibly interpret the above quote (or any other part of the article) as advocating violence... [1] http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/17/gay-rights-have-made-us-dumber-its-time-to-get-back-in-the-closet/ http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/17/gay-right...

mikeash 10y ago

Being liberal does not require accepting Nazis. I will defend their right to hold their views and say what they want, but they have no right to do business with a particular e-commerce site.

tomp 10y ago
By comparing Breitbart with Nazi you're being incredibly disrespectful to the actual Nazi victims.
- mikeash 10y ago
  Their Shopify store includes a t-shirt with a fricken' parteiadler on it. I think the label is entirely justified.
  - tomp 10y ago
    Link? I found this [1], but the label suggests it's the US eagle instead... [1] https://store.breitbart.com/collections/mens/products/e-pluribus-unum-t-shirt https://store.breitbart.com/collections/mens/products/e-plur...
    - mikeash 10y ago
      I found this one, but basically the same: https://store.breitbart.com/collections/all-products/products/e-pluribus-unum-long-sleeve https://store.breitbart.com/collections/all-products/product... The US eagle has its wings going up, not straight sideways. And the head is pointed to the eagle's right, not the left. (This is also the difference between the reichsadler, which is a more generic symbol of Germany, and the parteiadler, which is a Nazi symbol: the riechsadler's head points to the eagle's right, while the parteiadler's head points left.) Just compare: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Seal_of_the_United_States#/media/File:Great_Seal_of_the_United_States_(obverse).svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Seal_of_the_United_State... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Parteiadler_der_Nationalsozialistische_Deutsche_Arbeiterpartei_(1933–1945)_(andere).svg/1280px-Parteiadler_der_Nationalsozialistische_Deutsche_Arbeiterpartei_(1933–1945)_(andere).svg.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Pa... The one on the shirt is quite close to the second (minus the swastika) and quite distant from the first.
      - tomp 10y ago