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What is the author implying? Imagine if the topic were about people predisposed to cystic fibrosis or haemophilia. What's his solution?

freehunter 10y ago
Well we're not purposefully breeding humans specifically to give them cystic fibrosis or haemophilia. I'm sure if we did, the author would be calling for us to stop breeding specifically to get these genetic disorders.
- imjustsaying 10y ago
  I see what you're saying. But I just rechecked the article and nowhere does the author call for us to stop breeding pugs.
  - a3n 10y ago
    If people stopped buying them, it would have that effect.
jdpedrie 10y ago
The ethical issues surrounding dogs are entirely different from those surrounding people. Additionally, humans didn't specifically select for traits in other people which caused genetic disorders to become rampant in an entire bloodline (with some accidental exceptions I suppose).
- imjustsaying 10y ago
  > Additionally, humans didn't specifically select for traits in other people which caused genetic disorders to become rampant in an entire bloodline Well actually they did. Many East Asians have historically preferred lighter skin tones even though it increases melanoma risk. http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/03630242.2013.806386 http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/03630242.2013.806386 There's infinite other examples of unintended negative consequences of sexual selection preferences.
- vixen99 10y ago
  Specific selection? Not with that knowledge in mind admittedly but some groups of people continue to inbreed regardless of the clear dangers of this for offspring. There is a country where 70 percent of all marriages are between first cousins. The results are dire.
Nursie 10y ago
She's implying you shouldn't buy one, shouldn't fund the breeders who select for these unhealthy traits. We don't delibrately select people with these conditions and breed them to make them worse. This is exactly what breeders are doing with brachycephalic dog breeds.
openasocket 10y ago
Everyone on this thread seems to keep making an analogy to humans, but that's pretty problematic. Remember, we also breed dogs, buy and sell them, and routinely sterilize them. The analogy doesn't really hold up.

freehunter 10y ago

Well we're not purposefully breeding humans specifically to give them cystic fibrosis or haemophilia. I'm sure if we did, the author would be calling for us to stop breeding specifically to get these genetic disorders.

imjustsaying 10y ago
I see what you're saying. But I just rechecked the article and nowhere does the author call for us to stop breeding pugs.
- a3n 10y ago
  If people stopped buying them, it would have that effect.

jdpedrie 10y ago

The ethical issues surrounding dogs are entirely different from those surrounding people. Additionally, humans didn't specifically select for traits in other people which caused genetic disorders to become rampant in an entire bloodline (with some accidental exceptions I suppose).

imjustsaying 10y ago
> Additionally, humans didn't specifically select for traits in other people which caused genetic disorders to become rampant in an entire bloodline Well actually they did. Many East Asians have historically preferred lighter skin tones even though it increases melanoma risk. http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/03630242.2013.806386 http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/03630242.2013.806386 There's infinite other examples of unintended negative consequences of sexual selection preferences.
vixen99 10y ago
Specific selection? Not with that knowledge in mind admittedly but some groups of people continue to inbreed regardless of the clear dangers of this for offspring. There is a country where 70 percent of all marriages are between first cousins. The results are dire.

Nursie 10y ago

She's implying you shouldn't buy one, shouldn't fund the breeders who select for these unhealthy traits. We don't delibrately select people with these conditions and breed them to make them worse. This is exactly what breeders are doing with brachycephalic dog breeds.

openasocket 10y ago

Everyone on this thread seems to keep making an analogy to humans, but that's pretty problematic. Remember, we also breed dogs, buy and sell them, and routinely sterilize them. The analogy doesn't really hold up.