I've worked on code that came from those shops (though maybe India more than China) and I completely agree. But it's still going to be hard to make the case for

I've worked on code that came from those shops (though maybe India more than China) and I completely agree. But it's still going to be hard to make the case for coding to expand the way auto manufacturing did, for example, when we're already outsourcing a huge chunk of work. And there's no reason to think they won't get better at the work there in any case.