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I think one of the more depressing things is that (potentially) many driver-less cars will be gas powered. Does anyone know if Waymo is going to be used on any

I think one of the more depressing things is that (potentially) many driver-less cars will be gas powered. Does anyone know if Waymo is going to be used on any electric cars? There doesn't seem to be any reason driver-less cars have to be electric, but if big companies pushed the tech onto electric cars it'd be a nice way to speed up their adoption and infrastructure for them.

dsfyu404ed 10y ago
>I think one of the more depressing things is that (potentially) many driver-less cars will be gas powered. Does anyone know if Waymo is going to be used on any electric cars? It's not like the software isn't portable or that GM has any aversion to building electric if market conditions are favorable.
- marricks 10y ago
  Of course not, but having the tech tied to an electric push I think makes the whole package more attractive to consumers. Perhaps I'm too tied to a Tesla mindset on this though, of course self driving cars offer a bunch of advantages on their own.
  - yellow_postit 10y ago
    I have a strong sense that self driving will be generally distributed through the US car population before electric only vehicles given the pace of software vs. pace of battery technology. This will drive mass adoption of gas powered self driving cars pushing back the adoption curve for all electrics. One way to stem this may be through tax and insurance incentives, a discount on self driving due to safety, a discount for electric for environmental reasons, and an extra discount for both.
    - jfim 10y ago
      I was under the impression that electric cars had a lower cost per mile, but the electrics have a higher up front cost. If you have a self driving fleet (eg. Lyft, Uber, GM, etc.), you'd want to optimize for the former, not the latter. Uber has proved that if you can get a car within a couple of minutes at a low enough price, it's a valid enough substitute to car ownership, at least in cities.
adrianmacneil 10y ago
The Cruise cars are already built using the Bolt electric vehicle.

dsfyu404ed 10y ago

>I think one of the more depressing things is that (potentially) many driver-less cars will be gas powered. Does anyone know if Waymo is going to be used on any electric cars? It's not like the software isn't portable or that GM has any aversion to building electric if market conditions are favorable.

marricks 10y ago
Of course not, but having the tech tied to an electric push I think makes the whole package more attractive to consumers. Perhaps I'm too tied to a Tesla mindset on this though, of course self driving cars offer a bunch of advantages on their own.
- yellow_postit 10y ago
  I have a strong sense that self driving will be generally distributed through the US car population before electric only vehicles given the pace of software vs. pace of battery technology. This will drive mass adoption of gas powered self driving cars pushing back the adoption curve for all electrics. One way to stem this may be through tax and insurance incentives, a discount on self driving due to safety, a discount for electric for environmental reasons, and an extra discount for both.
  - jfim 10y ago
    I was under the impression that electric cars had a lower cost per mile, but the electrics have a higher up front cost. If you have a self driving fleet (eg. Lyft, Uber, GM, etc.), you'd want to optimize for the former, not the latter. Uber has proved that if you can get a car within a couple of minutes at a low enough price, it's a valid enough substitute to car ownership, at least in cities.

adrianmacneil 10y ago

The Cruise cars are already built using the Bolt electric vehicle.